Suits Season 7 Ep 3 Recap | Mudmare

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[00:00:32] You have to drop your pro bono. There's a conflict with one of our clients. What? Who? I checked for conflicts before I took the case. It's a new client. Well if it's a new client then let's drop them. We can't. They're a huge developer.

[00:00:43] A developer? I'm suing a prison. I know that but they're saying... I don't care what they're saying. That's not a conflict. That's a shakedown. Mike!

[00:00:49] No! You're gonna give me the green light and then I find something and then you're gonna make me dump them for no good reason? It's not no good reason. It's Alex's developer and I just brought him in.

[00:00:57] I let him lose one of his biggest clients his first week. Here it's a disaster. And I let a man die without getting him justice. What the hell is that? Listen to me. Listen to yourself. We had a deal.

[00:01:07] Now this clown is asking me to drop a client that I made a promise to. Except he's not asking you to drop him Mike. I am. And if you don't, that deal we made, it's over. Suits Season 7 Episode 3 is over.

[00:01:26] And if you're ready to hear us talk about Mudmare, then suits yourself. I'm Rob Sestrino back here with a guy who just brought me this beautiful honeysuckle. It's Chappelle. Chappelle, thank you so much. Oh my, my tabbies are gonna love it. It's for the tabbies.

[00:01:45] Yes, you guessed it. Honeysuckles. I'm trying to solidify our friendship here. You know, normally when I meet new people, I'm really mean and brash and I run them off. We've seen this before with Jeff Malone. But this time, I'm gonna try to get ahead of that.

[00:01:59] I'm gonna try to be nice, bring you flowers, and win you over despite your droopy eyes. Okay, thank you. Appreciate that. We don't have to go through the seven stages of Chappelle as we are back here to talk about Mudmare

[00:02:12] as we really have been exploring Louis with the therapist here in Season 7. Louis needs medication. I don't know y'all. Okay, I'm not even saying that to be funny. But the end of this episode, when he's talking to the therapist and he's calling the therapist Harvey and he's like,

[00:02:34] Like, who, who, Harvey? You did it again. You're trying to leave me for your new friend. Oh my God, Louis, please. Is he having a psychotic break? I'm dead ass serious. It's such a good question because you know, here we are. This is what episode what? 95 of Suits?

[00:02:53] And I feel like that Louis is in worse shape. Not not physically, but like from a mental standpoint, like he was kind of like messed up when we found him, but it seemed like he was getting better. Like he was like a lunatic, but he was our lunatic.

[00:03:10] But I just feel like the Tara thing really broke him in ways that I'm not sure if Louis ever comes back. Yeah, this was weird. I mean, worse than Sheila. I think I'd say so as well.

[00:03:25] And I think maybe maybe he just never healed from the Sheila thing and it is rolled over into the Tara thing. So he thought the Tara situation was the fix for that.

[00:03:35] And when it wasn't, it opened up that wound even bigger than it was at first because there's no reason why he should be this upset at the end of this episode. Like you're always against me.

[00:03:47] You think I'm a horrible person like you always say I am, you know, Harvey is all your fault. I'm not a worthless piece of shit, sir. Really? Yeah, we got a friend in the office. I don't know.

[00:04:02] He had lunch plans and then Alex had to go actually for be one of the few people at PSL to do work. And he told him I'm doing work. It's not like Alex lied to him.

[00:04:12] Like, okay, I gotta get it because we've seen stuff like this before, right? Where someone has a plan to do like to go out with somebody and they're like, they don't want to go.

[00:04:21] So they make up some reason like, oh, I can't watch Monday Night Football with y'all. You know, I gotta go do something else and they make up a reason why they can't make it. And then the person finds out right?

[00:04:31] Like, oh, you were lying to me all along. I saw you secretly going and doing other stuff. But Alex was legit telling the truth. He said I have to work. I'm sorry. And he actually really wanted to go to lunch with Lewis. He asked Harvey about him.

[00:04:44] Harvey wasn't talking trash. It's not like Lewis overheard Harvey being like, yeah, don't worry about that Lewis person. He's horrible. You ain't got to be friends with him, Alex. He actually heard them having a normal adult conversation and he still took it as a personal attack. I'm starting.

[00:04:59] Yeah, medication. I'm thinking I think it's time we got to sedate this man because now I'm concerned about his health, you know, like he's talking to his therapist and he sounds like he's gonna hurt himself.

[00:05:07] Well, he also has had a heart attack in the run of the show. So yeah, he's really not in a great spot. So good. Yeah. What do you think about Lewis's mud mare where the episode title comes from?

[00:05:24] So when the episode starts and we see Lewis in the mud next to Harvey, I immediately go. Oh, so this is a dream because there's just no way Harvey's doing this. And for a second, it's starting to feel like maybe just like for maybe point five seconds.

[00:05:40] It feels like it's not a dream. But then Alex pops up and then he's inside the mud with Lewis at one point. Lewis is screaming. It's not a good moment for Lewis. You know, he's already very jealous of the idea of Alex Williams encroaching on his position.

[00:05:58] And so when he goes to talk to the therapist about it, the therapist says the same exact advice that Lewis was given about Jeff Malone. Lewis, wouldn't it be nice to make a friend instead of making an enemy? We saw this exact plot play out already.

[00:06:12] And so, you know, with Jeff Malone, Lewis went to him and was like, hey, you want to go to the ballet? And Jeff Malone was like, I don't know. And then I think that's when they got to flirting a little bit.

[00:06:22] And Jeff Malone was like, yeah, Lewis rubbing his shoulders and stuff like that. I think that's how that storyline started. Here he goes to Alex. He's like, I heard you got, you know, like I'm bringing you flowers. You know, hopefully this helps. It's honeysuckle, you know.

[00:06:38] And then they actually talk and they bond a little bit. Alex is familiar with Lewis's work. He uses some of his strategies. And Alex has tabby cats, which we know Lewis will go up for at any time. Like he's giddy about the cats.

[00:06:50] And so from here, it felt like there was potential for a really cool friendship to happen. But Lewis cannot get out of his own head just because he's so on edge about his friendship with Harvey and about losing Harvey.

[00:07:05] I'm guessing that's some type of like projection about how he felt about, you know, Tara. But it's bad. It's bad from Jeff. But I will say this. His therapy session was actually kind of impressive this time.

[00:07:16] Many times Lewis is just on the phone yelling at Dr. Lipschitz and we really don't see any real connection or any growth. But this was the first time we saw Lewis actually learning something in therapy and trying to apply it.

[00:07:27] It just didn't work out for him in the end. Mm hmm. Yeah. And I think Lewis does try some of the things, but then if they do not work, he's like instantly furious. Yeah, I mean, that's his thing.

[00:07:41] Anytime something doesn't go his way, he defaults to like, you know, rage. That's how I am in fantasy football. If any of like these experts tell me to do something or draft a guy and it doesn't work out like I instantly become Lewis.

[00:07:55] Yeah, no, I'm not that invested in fantasy football. But if I'm watching an NFL game, oh yeah, instantly. Don't let the game not go my way. I am a horrible person. Don't talk to me. And so, you know, and again, maybe I need to be sedated sometime.

[00:08:09] Maybe I should stop watching so much football. These are things I can explore. But Lewis is the same. Lewis definitely needs to start looking at some of these patterns because they're not healthy. And it's bad because the therapist even anticipates him.

[00:08:19] He's like, Lewis, you're about to go to stage seven. Lewis thinking, what does that mean? He's like, no, you always react in exact same way.

[00:08:26] You look at things that were not targeted at you, take them as personal slights, and then you go on the attack because you feel so slighted. Even though it's imaginary, you made it up. It's specious. It's not real. So that's Lewis, though. That's the Lewis that we have.

[00:08:41] He just wasn't this bad at first. It seems like he's just gotten progressively worse with the loss of Sheila, the loss of them damn cats, and then the loss of Tara. Let's talk about what's going on with Mike.

[00:08:52] And the episode begins with, we see that the news article has been written and we see that Donna, and Donna loves a good print shop gag. And she gets the newspaper article blown up. What did you think about the article that got written about Mike Ross?

[00:09:13] I really couldn't tell about the article because it was just random headlines that they photoshopped into the article. It's like from the Scrambleverse. Right, exactly.

[00:09:23] So it looked like the article, which we assume said something like, you know, hotshot new lawyer or fraud lawyer turned hero or something like that. No, I believe what it said in the article, that what it had said blown up was fake lawyer becomes real dickhead.

[00:09:39] No, there were several different headlines, Rob. Don't get me wrong. Yeah, they were like Donna went out of their way to embarrass him. Yeah. Do you think that Photoshop or that was what in the real article? No, those were those were Photoshop.

[00:09:53] There was another one that was just like, dang, I wish I had written them all down because you could kind of make out a couple others.

[00:10:00] But yeah, it was like they took the article that he actually had and they made a bunch of parody headlines about Mike Ross being arrogant or being a fraud. But just like also being a jerk about it.

[00:10:12] And then Harvey kind of implies that Mike looks fat in his pictures. Yeah, he did. And again, Harvey and Mike have gotten so close to where this is an anti-body shame podcast, by the way. Yeah, we don't body shame.

[00:10:28] I don't think we've ever body shamed on this podcast, but the suits people are not above some of the insults that we definitely would take the high road here on Suit Yourself. Yeah. Yeah. He's got them chunky. But Harvey is going to give Mike a case.

[00:10:42] There's like a merger that's going on. He gives him the case and then Mike, like very quickly, like there's a whole thing in the addendum. They're trying to do an escape clause. Very, very shady. Just giving it back to you.

[00:10:55] And so Mike hands it back off to Harvey, who then is going to give him up so he can go work on another pro bono case. Mike, very busy with the pro bono cases. Well, this isn't part of the agreement either.

[00:11:10] You know, it was supposed to be one for one for Mike and one for Harvey. And then so Mike already did his one pro bono case. And now he's like, OK, but now I want to do Mr.

[00:11:20] Reyes here. And he's like, OK, but no, you know what I'm saying? Like, why? No, you already did one. You know, like, what are you doing? And so he's like, what do you mean? He's like, yeah, you already did one.

[00:11:33] You we're not doing all pro bono cases, Mike. We have to pay the bills. Like, but I want to help him. Mr. Reyes is a man who has read Mike's interview.

[00:11:41] It went so well about, you know, how the you can't eff with this Mike Ross because he's a fraud, but he turned hero and he's out here saving people for free, basically.

[00:11:51] And so Mr. Reyes says, I need you to help out because you went to prison and my son went to prison. But when my son was in prison, he died and something's going on in there.

[00:12:00] And I just can't pinpoint what it was because my son was only 28 years old, but he died from some health problems. And on top of all that, he was arrested for an ounce of marijuana. So he shouldn't have even been in jail in the first place.

[00:12:12] So, of course, this speaks to Mike Ross because Mike Ross has also, you know, come in contact with people who sell the weed. And so he, you know, he feels very strongly about that, those types of topics.

[00:12:24] And, you know, he also doesn't like when people are trying to settle with people when their death is wrongful or something like that. And they're trying to lowball people. And he's been to jail. Yeah, this is a lot of things that attract Mike to this particular case.

[00:12:37] So he goes to the jail and he interrogates a woman, Mrs. Snyder, who works at the jail and asks her about what's going on. She's kind of like stonewalling him. Eventually, he's like, hey, I'm going to sue you. I'm going to get this in discovery anyway.

[00:12:53] Give it to me. He gets the incident report. He ends up showing some of this stuff to Oscar. Then he goes in like he's like interrogating the prison guards, like off duty, like he's going to like he's like harassing them on their way out of the jail.

[00:13:13] Yeah, I was like, Mike Ross, you're going to get beat up by a bunch of prison guards. They were not happy because Mike is basically insinuating that there's something nefarious happening here. Right. This son of Mr. Reyes, Mr.

[00:13:24] Reyes, he got in a fight and the guards were involved in some way, but he was thrown in solitary confinement. And that's where he started to experience his health issues and he died. Well, Mike goes to the prison guards and is like, hey, what's up?

[00:13:42] Y'all going to tell me more information? Of course, they're all like, no, go away. Who are you, random guy?

[00:13:47] And so eventually he goes and finds one of the prison guards who he says is at the top of the list of people who could take the fall for this.

[00:13:54] And so when he goes to that guy, he's like, OK, tell me what's up, because if you don't, it's going to like it's going to all fall on you anyway. So you might as well say something to kind of help save your own neck.

[00:14:04] And so the guy tells him I pulled him out of the fight. I wasn't even involved like that. And there's nothing really nefarious happening. Like no one killed the kid. It's just that after the fight, he experienced some heart problems because it was a high stress situation.

[00:14:19] He probably thought his life was in danger and then he died. But it's mostly because they didn't have enough people on duty to protect the guy in the first place. The prison has been just understaffed. And because of that, there's a lot of corners being cut.

[00:14:33] And so now Mike thinks that he might have a case for Mr. Reyes. Yeah, they get told that the prison's not corrupt. It's just cheap. So Mike is going to go and work on filing this lawsuit here against the prison.

[00:14:48] But it turns out that Alex, our newest partner here at PSL, he has like some kind of he's representing some construction company that built the jail or in some way, shape or form that the jail is connected to this construction company.

[00:15:06] And it's a conflict of interest for Alex. Yeah, he's like basically tangentially related to like the real estate of this whole situation because it's like one of the biggest developers in the country.

[00:15:21] And they're going to get the message that, OK, if y'all are coming after this facility, then obviously you don't want to be in the real estate business.

[00:15:30] Like you'll be closing out closing a line of business off forever because of the way Mike Ross is handling this, because it is connected to PSL. It's pro bono. But Mike Ross is still working for Prison Inspector Litt. So they need Mike to drop it.

[00:15:43] But of course, this is Mike. He's not he's not going to go for that. He's like, I'm not dropping it. You're crazy. That's this is wrong.

[00:15:50] But even when he goes to Harvey and he's upset about it, I'm like, Mike, technically the deal was that you were going to take one pro bono case, one for Harvey after the one for you. You already did the one for you.

[00:16:03] So this one shouldn't even be on the table. So, yeah, when they ask you to drop it, you should say, damn, I shouldn't have even been in this area to do this in the first place.

[00:16:11] It's not like Harvey, you promised me I could do whatever I want and now you're taking away from me. You actually agreed that you would not take two pro bono cases in a row. So now that this is your second one. Hello, you got to drop it.

[00:16:22] I'm sorry. Yeah. And Mike's not happy. No, he's not happy. He's got a tantrum to Lewis and Lewis is like, what? Harvey went back on his word. That's it. This is B.S. Let's go. And Lewis is like very upset.

[00:16:35] He I don't care about losing a client like Harvey can't go back against his word, which also ridiculous. Right, right, right, right, right. And and and the long and short of the Lewis situation is this, you know, like we said he missed his lunch with Alex.

[00:16:52] He really wanted to go out and have lunch with him. They were bonding. They have the tabbies. They actually have a few things in common. So it felt like this would have been a match made in heaven.

[00:17:00] And then when he misses the lunch starting to look like Lewis is taking that very personally. And so he's coming at Harvey like we're not going to start dropping cases for Alex. He just got here. We don't know this guy. We don't like him. I hate him.

[00:17:14] I'm actually jealous of him because he's been hanging out with you and now y'all are cutting me out of the friend group. But you know, the real situation is Jay. He's just jealous, you know, so both things are true.

[00:17:26] Honestly, you know, Harvey cannot set a precedent for Alex comes in immediately demands to be named partner and Harvey was about to give it to him. And now in this episode, he's like, okay.

[00:17:35] Well, Alex wants you to stop, you know, representing XYZ and Harvey wants everybody to bend. And so Lewis is like, no, that's not right. You can't do this. And so now he tried to put his foot down.

[00:17:48] But I think again, I think Harvey is right in this situation. It's time for Mike to step down. And so Mike has to find somebody else to pawn this off on. Yep. And so of course, he's going to go and give the case to Oliver here. Oliver.

[00:18:01] We want to work on this pro bono case. But Harvey is pissed because he told Mike to leave it alone, not to give it to the clinic, which has a bunch of ties back to Mike and back to everybody over at PSL.

[00:18:17] And so that we're going to have Mike put this in writing like you're not going to touch this case. You swear that you're not going to touch this case, write it down. And me, Mike had a difficult time giving it to the clinic.

[00:18:31] It's not like Oliver was very happy to see Mike. Remember last time Oliver would talk to Mike, Mike's like, no, Oliver, I promise I'm not going to go back to corporate law. Not me. I'm here fighting for the little guy.

[00:18:42] I'm not going to take two million dollars and just run off with a plug. It's like, no, that's exactly what he did. He took all the money and ran and he's been helping, you know, we know this, but Oliver doesn't know that.

[00:18:53] And so once he finally convinces Oliver to help out, he then has to say, and I cannot assist you. I'm giving my word to Harvey and I'm actually signing it in blood.

[00:19:04] So I'm swearing that I'm not going to go back on this and help you out because that would be bad for business. And so, yeah, Mike gives it up and everything should be fine as long as Mike doesn't go back on his word. Right, right.

[00:19:18] And when does Mike ever go back on a contract promise? No, not this Mike. This is the reform Mike. He went to jail. He went to jail. Julius says he's a new person. Right? Yeah, right. Okay.

[00:19:33] And so then, you know, Mike doesn't want to be in this situation again with Alex him and Alex end up patching things up. So Mike welcomes Alex to Pierce Inspectorate. Yeah, and Alex is very remorseful about this as well. He's like, this is not personal.

[00:19:54] I really don't know what to tell you. There's no reason why we would turn all up, turn out all of this money for a pro bono case.

[00:20:01] Like I understand that you want to help people, but business wise, you shouldn't have brought me here if you weren't about business. You should have just left me where I was at. And so Mike kind of understands.

[00:20:10] And so he tells Alex, all right, well, here's my next 15 clients. You know, he kind of says it tongue in cheek, like since you got to know everything that I'm working on. So you don't so we don't cross paths.

[00:20:20] But Alex is like, no, seriously, that would help because I really don't want to step on your toes. You know, that's not why I came here. I didn't come here to push anybody out. I just think that this is a bad business move.

[00:20:29] And so yeah, they all come to terms with it. It seems like they're all on the same page except for Lewis who probably had the most in common with Alex because he's still seething about the whole lunch. They got a little squeezed out.

[00:20:41] So another big storyline that's going on in the episode is that Rachel has taken over with the associates.

[00:20:48] We talked about Stephanie who back in the season premiere, Lewis said that nobody would ever try to have a baby with her and Stephanie is get she's getting some assignments and then she's passing them off to other people. There was something she didn't want to do.

[00:21:05] She had Jason do it and Rachel didn't like that. Yeah, she didn't want to do cataloging procedure. We found out that Stephanie is a fourth year associate and that's some first year stuff. She's like, I'm bigger than that. Sorry, I'm not doing it.

[00:21:18] And so Rachel has her do it anyway. Like I know you gonna go do it because I'm asking you to so let's handle it. And so she turns in her assignment and Rachel's like this girl. I know you didn't do this.

[00:21:30] So she goes to Donna the COO and she says Donna, this is not this girl's work. What am I supposed to do? She's insubordinate. She won't listen to me and she needs Donna to give her some wisdom as her. Can I ask you a question though?

[00:21:42] Chappelle that maybe some of our real life lawyers could weigh in on this but who cares? Who cares Rachel? Like this isn't 11th grade English. Like if Stephanie didn't do whatever if she got somebody else to do it, like, you know, you're a lawyer.

[00:22:01] You have the power legal do some of these things. Like there's no like quiz like she's a four. It's not that she does it. She's incompetent. She can't do it. She's like, hey, I'm a fourth-year associate. You're giving me first year stuff to do.

[00:22:15] I'm going to farm that out. Like what why is this a big deal for Rachel? I think Rachel is trying to establish a sense of the hierarchy here. She is in charge of the associates and if you tell someone to do something, they just flat out.

[00:22:26] So, you know, you know that level of insubordination is like, okay, you know, she did the thing. She had somebody else do it. Then she did say no then. Yeah, you know, I said will you do this?

[00:22:35] And she says no, she said I won't let I won't ask Jason to do it anymore. She tried to find a lawyer loophole like you didn't say I couldn't ask somebody to do it.

[00:22:44] You just said I couldn't ask Jason to do it and she's like all I'm asking you is to do what I asked you to do which is the assignment, you know, and I think that there's a valid point here.

[00:22:53] I think that if you cannot establish a sense of right and wrong with your associates right now wait until they start getting bigger cases and they start going to trial and stuff like that and you ask them to do stuff.

[00:23:03] You're not going to be any better than Mike Ross and Harvey for years for seasons. We see Harvey saying Mike don't do this. Don't do that and Mike going, um, okay, and then doing it. Anyway, we saw Jessica and Harvey having that same fight Lewis you tell Lewis.

[00:23:18] Hey, don't go yell at this person right now. It'll really be bad for the case and not only does Lewis yell at them, but he ruins the whole case over a cat, you know,

[00:23:27] so you really have to establish a sense of like if you do not do this, there will be consequences. Yeah, so she's just trying to you know, put a sack on the table.

[00:23:35] Don't know who's boss. Okay. I guess I just feel like that if I was asking for somebody for somebody is part of like one of these organizations that I'm a part of and I ask somebody for a thing and then you know,

[00:23:49] they get me the thing but like they didn't necessarily do it. Like I'm gonna I'm gonna still be mad at the person I asked for it if it's done wrong, but if it all got done like I feel like I don't care that much.

[00:24:03] Yeah, I mean you don't care until it gets done wrong and then when it's done wrong your question is who did it? They say well I outsourced it. They will did not ask you to do it because you would have done it right.

[00:24:13] Yeah, and now was that you're owning that outsourcing.

[00:24:16] I feel like right you are yeah, but had you just done it yourself would have had this done, you know, and so when you start making excuses for other people they can kind of potted off like well, I asked Jason to do it, but he didn't do it.

[00:24:27] Okay, but I asked you to do it and you didn't get it done. So who's the who's really the problem here? Should I be mad at Jason or should I be mad at you?

[00:24:34] Yeah, and so I think she's just trying to establish, you know, like I am in charge and she needs to be a leader in these moments now. I definitely kind of agree with you where Rachel should say hey as a leader.

[00:24:44] I can tell that this is something that is kind of you know, you know, when she did it the second time I felt like that was insubordinate when she said no, I want you to do this. Yeah, I want you to do this.

[00:24:55] It's like but I mean, but but Stephanie was making some valid points. She says when I got here first of all, I was recruited because I was minding my own business with Robert Zane and then Katrina said let's bounce. We got we got a good place.

[00:25:10] We could go we could go and grow there. It's smaller. It's gonna be room for you to get actual time with the is with the senior partners and stuff like that.

[00:25:18] She sold her a dream only for her to get there and get yelled at by Lewis about how she's not going to be able to have kids because no one wants to have sex with her, you know, then now Rachel comes in and she's like, oh also go do this grunt work.

[00:25:31] Yeah. Yeah. How about that? And then when the grunt work is done is not even good enough because it's like no I asked you to do it. I want to I want to help you like I don't deserve this. I didn't do anything to deserve this.

[00:25:41] PSL even have an HR person anymore. Have they ever have they ever had a job? I think they had one at what some point but not in this 17 person skeleton crew. We are at seven seasons. We've seen so many work relationships.

[00:25:58] We saw I think it was 18 with Alex. Yeah. Yeah, we have seen Lewis get accused of sexual harassment. We've seen Daniel Hartman sleeping with people and stealing money to pay for their vacations. We've seen Harvey sexually like flirting with people in the office.

[00:26:16] We've seen Jessica have an in-office romance with Jeff Malone. She really she hired him because they were sleeping together at no point has told me showed up from HR and tried to shut this down. No, there is no HR. They don't have one.

[00:26:28] No, they prefer to live like the Wild West. Okay, and so Donna ends up when we haven't got into any like Donna but in ski territory lately, but here she is ready to you know, the CEO ready to metal. And so Rachel is dealing with this.

[00:26:49] She's like, you know what Lewis was right. Lewis Lewis would have handled this. He didn't take any crap from these associates. You got to get in there. You got to lay down the law. She's testing you Rachel.

[00:26:58] You got to knock it off nip this thing in the bud. And so as it comes up Donna comes in and it's like, all right, Stephanie, that's it. We're not taking any more crap from you. We're going to show you the door.

[00:27:10] You're you screwed up for the last time and Rachel's like you embarrassed me so much in front of the associates. Why do you like this? Didn't she?

[00:27:20] Yeah, didn't she Rachel's and Stephanie going back and forth in front of everybody in front of everybody Rachel said I asked you to do this. Stephanie's like look, here's the thing. I just got here y'all been treating me bad. Anyway, this is grunt work. I'm a fourth year.

[00:27:36] She's making valid points and I'm like, well, what you gonna say Rachel and Donna's like Rachel girl. Shut up. I got this Stephanie shut your ass up. Don't don't you ever stop? Don't you ever talk to us like that girl?

[00:27:45] I'll smack you and I was like, oh Donna don't do it. Don't smack her please hammer. Don't hurt her. And so the whole time I'm like Donna you're wilding because everybody sees you kind of Depot in Rachel.

[00:27:56] Like boom girl get out the way but also talking to Stephanie like you crazy. And so when Rachel comes in like a Donna that wasn't great Donna like girl, you might not even be ready for this job.

[00:28:06] If you ain't ready to let the smack down because baby, I'm Donna. I'm awesome. What are you you just Rachel so step it up or I'm gonna have to just do the smacking down for you from now on.

[00:28:16] But when she had Rachel with the maybe you're not ready for that position Rachel said maybe you ain't ready for your position CEO. And I was like, oh, she got it. Oh my God.

[00:28:26] I was like fist bumping at home like fight fight fight fight fight, but I think Rachel won. I think she won Donna was tripping. Yeah, Rachel one but ultimately Donna is going to fire Stephanie at the end of the episode. Yeah.

[00:28:42] Yeah, I mean definitely come to my office. But are you surprised that they it wasn't Rachel that let the axe fall on Stephanie after all this? No, I I don't know. I think that Rachel was still shell-shocked from the moment, right?

[00:29:00] And so Donna comes to her and they do talk and you know, and she agrees that she messed up and then for her. She feels like she's in a position now to prove that she is qualified, right?

[00:29:14] Like Donna was a legal secretary for 10 years or more or whatever and now she's in a position of leadership and she's not a lawyer. So she doesn't have like the legal knowledge that these other people have. So she's really here just from an organizational leadership standpoint.

[00:29:30] And so maybe she felt like she needed to be the one to do it just so that she can really cut her teeth and say, no, this is what happens when you cross Donna crossing Rachel equals crossing Donna.

[00:29:40] I will be laying the smack down in the future get into it. And so although Stephanie says, you know, I'm doing the assignment. She's like, yeah, but it's a late and this is your third strike.

[00:29:50] So you got to beat it and she tells her I wish you well and something like you. They want me to believe that you wish me was yeah, I don't have any hard feelings toward you.

[00:29:59] Don't get me wrong to smack you around a little bit in front of the other associates because I had to assert my dominance but had you not been tripping we wouldn't even have to get there and no hard feelings. Peace out. So yeah, that's the end of Stephanie.

[00:30:09] She's gone. She's gone. So then Harvey's also gonna be back with Dr. Agar a little bit here. Gonna go with dinner and just Dr. Agar's I need to go.

[00:30:28] Yeah, she's like I met up with a colleague of mine and she was asking me if I was seeing anybody and then I had to tell them this story and it was very embarrassing. I was like, are you ashamed of me? And she's very are you kidding me?

[00:30:42] This is a dark mark on my career. So her mentor who she thinks very highly of and probably thinks highly of her.

[00:30:51] It's like so see anybody and what Harvey I guess is expecting Paula to say is yeah, one of my clients, you know, it's been about a year. So, you know, it's technically legal, but it's still above board, right?

[00:31:04] You heard all his issues and frankly, I couldn't pass it up. Right? I can manage, you know, he let me inside his head. And so now I'm pretty much I'm controlling in there. He's very troubled, but he's very handsome and very rich. Have you seen him? Right.

[00:31:18] Have you seen his car? You know, it's crazy. Yeah, but no, she doesn't say that. She actually like dating. No, why would I date somebody? I'm never dating again. And then she kind of just like leaves it at that. But she tells Harvey, I'm concerned.

[00:31:33] And Harvey said, are you concerned about what you think about the situation or what people think? And she says, yes, absolutely. Both of those things.

[00:31:39] I am concerned about what people think about me because it does affect my reputation as a therapist if they think I'm out here sleeping with my clients. But then also Harvey, I'm trying to figure out what I think about this. You know, you are a client.

[00:31:51] I've never, you know, been in a relationship with a client before. And I also know that you've let me into the intimate parts of your mind that you would normally not let somebody into if you were dating them.

[00:32:00] So I feel like I have an unfair advantage in a way. So I think that she's troubled with both of those things. And Harvey's just like, but come on, you know, aren't I rich and attractive? Mm hmm. Over that. What? Yeah. Why do you need ethics?

[00:32:14] She's like, well, you know, I'm worried I'll look foolish if this doesn't work out. And Harvey's like, but isn't that every relationship? And Paula's like, Harvey, Harvey, we love you. I love you so much. You're so cute. It's like, Paula, come on, man. Stand up.

[00:32:31] She gets packed up so easy by this man. That's why I'm like, I'm wondering if any of his therapy sessions were actually therapy session or they were just flirting the whole time. Maybe. Chappelle, let's talk about the Liddy for season seven, episode three. Who you got here?

[00:32:48] Donna's out. Rachel's out. Lewis is out. Lewis is out. This is going to be a very easy time to get these things together now. Um, Mike Ross is has a good he has a good point here. He does sign away his rights to this case.

[00:33:05] He does what needs to be done. He forgives Alex. Yeah. Is Alex going to be added to our Liddy chart? Yeah, I think so. If he deserves one, I think that I mean, I think he is not quite a series regular here.

[00:33:17] He's treated as a special guest star at this point also. But like, I mean, I think that if he does something exceptional, yeah, in a world where we've given

[00:33:27] Liddy's to Katrina and to Scotty, and then I think that he is definitely eligible at this point as a part of the team. Yeah, I mean, I don't think his contribution to the team was that I don't think he deserves anything really in this episode.

[00:33:41] So the question is, does Harvey deserve a Liddy? Does Harvey deserve it or does Mike? I mean, Mike, when we worked on this pro bono case, he like was asked to give it up. He didn't give like a have a tantrum, do his patented like, I'm Mike Ross.

[00:33:54] I'll do what I want. I do what I want, whatever, whatever. Yeah, Harvey didn't really do much. You know, I think this was a light Harvey episode. Yeah, he's kind of flirting with Paula. He fought with Lewis a little bit.

[00:34:08] He went with Alex to go and go on the work on this other merger case. And but I think this was more of a Mike episode. This is a Mike episode. Congrats, Mike. Welcome to the Liddy Club. Mike's gonna probably run away with these ladies at some point.

[00:34:24] At some point. Okay. Well, yeah. I it just so happens that I have after we were a couple days ahead on the recording. So Patty, our junior partner might have to be senior partner pretty soon. Let's do it. She okay. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Yeah.

[00:34:44] Okay. Welcome to give a seat at the table now, Patty. Okay, third co-host of the suits yourself podcast. Wait, Rob. Yes. What if we met her CEO? Is she a podcaster? Is she a podcaster? She's a podcaster.

[00:35:00] So, you know, okay, I would be happy with Patty the CEO. All right, that makes sense. She's awesome. Yes, Patty. You did it. She's Patty. She's awesome. All right, so I have the numbers.

[00:35:11] We finally have crunched the numbers from season six and it was a close race for the season six totals for the Liddy where it was really probably maybe I think more so than any other season. It was like a pretty split.

[00:35:29] Nobody ran away with it like in season five. I think Jessica really ran away with the Liddy award but here in season six, it ends up being Harvey ends up winning the season-long award, but he with only four

[00:35:46] three for Mike, three for Jessica, three for Rachel, two for Lewis and one for Donna. So it ends up being Harvey but narrowly. Narrowly. Okay. I'm actually kind of shocked to hear that Lewis got a couple in there too. You know, he was having a pretty rough season.

[00:36:03] Yeah at the end at the end. He sort of like came into his own. He gets one in episode 12 and episode 14. Okay. Well add one in the Mike column for season seven. Okay. Now that being said the all-time Liddy totals through the end of season six are

[00:36:20] pretty close a real horse race between Harvey and Jessica 22 for Harvey 21 for Jessica that being said it seems as though Jessica has resigned from the Liddy award race as well. She has bowed out. Now.

[00:36:37] The question is the Jessica come in last place at the end of all of this or she still managed to ink out like a Donna or Lewis who are probably trailing her at this point. I wonder where does the land by the time this is over.

[00:36:48] So then in third place is Mike with 17 Liddy awards through our episodes. Rachel is in fourth with 11 Lewis is in 10. There are only in the total run of the series like 30 39 episodes is 134 total. So 39 days.

[00:37:12] So we are it would be tough for I think Lewis or Rachel to get 10 or 11 like basically get like a quarter of the Liddy awards the rest of the way. Yeah, we have to put my Rachel I think yeah, I think Rachel's got a decent shot at it.

[00:37:31] I don't I don't know about Lewis. He sounds he's down bad right now, but Rachel is coming to her own as a lawyer. Pretty soon should be taking these cases to trial. I think we'll be seeing Rachel kind of she's coming into her own as a lawyer,

[00:37:44] but I think she's also coming into her own as a member of the royal family. Yeah, that's true. She like that between us like I don't back out. I don't know if Megan Markle's doing nine seasons of suits. Oh, okay.

[00:38:03] I actually never thought about that because remember I do not remember how this show. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if she's got I don't know if she's going the distance. I don't know if she's going if she's in this through 2019. Okay, fun to track. Let's see.

[00:38:16] I would I'm very excited to find out about that. So we'll see that. I don't know if that's you know, I don't know if that's a spoiler, but I just don't think that in the real time.

[00:38:26] I don't know how far she's going here into the bitter end of suits. But that being said it'll be tough for her to make it. I think past Jessica. I think Mike certainly has a chance to beat out Jessica. Yeah, Mike grinded out again.

[00:38:42] He's another one who's coming into his own. He starts knocking out some more of these pro bono cases and I think we could have a real contender. Mm-hmm. All right. So then we also had a couple other things to track over the course of season six.

[00:38:58] There was a hundred twenty three dams or God dams 98 bullshits. 35 documents slammed. Mike is a fraud got brought up 48 times. I think we'll have less of that moving forward. You know, I could see that falling off now that he's not on trial for being a fraud.

[00:39:17] Yeah, one f-bomb came from Sean Cahill. He popped it off and now we're off to the races with the f-bombs. I think I don't know if we had one in this episode, but we definitely

[00:39:26] had one and the one prior to this and I think two before and only one can opener episode that we gave away in season six. Yeah, I don't know says not a great sign. Okay, like come on y'all. We need to come harder. Yeah. All right, Chappelle.

[00:39:42] We also had a pop culture reference here in this episode that Harvey described Lewis as Frank Burns from mash to Alex. He said, do you know Frank Burns from mash and Alex is like, yes, yes totally totally 100% got it. Got it.

[00:40:01] I was like, oh, I could have used a little bit more color commentary on how is he like this person from mash because I that is a blind spot for me. He says he hates you but he loves you and he secretly wants to be you

[00:40:15] and so yeah as mash is also a blind spot for me. We have to add it to our list of things that we have to go back and watch one day. I don't know how long is mash is a lot of episodes.

[00:40:25] I think it's a lot of episodes. Look, here's the thing. I remember mash when I was a wee lad when I was just a child. I would stay up late watching TV because it's me and I remember I

[00:40:36] knew it was time to go to bed because all the good TV shows would go off and I would hear the Yeah. 251 episodes of mash. So, I mean if we started it right when suits ends, I mean we probably be done by what like by May by Halloween.

[00:41:01] Yeah, we probably done faster than that. Honestly. I mean we we've we killed over a hundred episodes of suits from September to December. It was one a day. Yeah. So I mean, yeah, we can knock it out and I and our producer Sam is in he loves mash.

[00:41:18] He's lying famously. Well, no famously a Frank Burns type as well. Major Frank Burns. Let's put some respect on it. All right. So that was the one reference that we had here in mud mare. Then why I have a one just one question for you from David Schwartz.

[00:41:39] What would you have done to Stephanie after disobeying Rachel three times? Has anyone ever passed off a podcast to do of for against Rob's wishes? No, nobody's ever farmed out a podcast. I don't think I'm trying to think of maybe like there's a time

[00:41:54] like where people somebody was doing a podcast and maybe that they just like then all of a sudden they were gone and like a co-host a new co-host was in there, but I don't know again. Like if if the job is getting done and it's getting done, right?

[00:42:12] Then I'm I don't think I'm a micromanager. Maybe Sam is going to dispute in the chat that I am but I feel like I'm fine. I'm more I don't know. I feel like I'm a little bit more hands-off. Like I just want the thing done.

[00:42:27] I don't want necessarily to I don't need to know how the sausage got made Sam and I are abstaining from the conversation. He says it depends on the day in the thing. I said we're abstaining Sam. We are not talking. We are not coming down.

[00:42:41] What do you think? Do you think I'm a micromanager abstaining? Yeah, Rob. I have the I can abstain don't fire me. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Okay, David, you remember that time Rob fired me, right? Just let's just be clear. Okay, he can fire people. I fought back.

[00:42:57] Yeah, I'm back in the I'm back in here, baby. I'm like Donna, you know, I screwed up the rewind was a great experiment but you know Rob cut it short, but now we're back even stronger. I can't speak on if anybody had be farming out their responsibilities

[00:43:12] to other people but Rob's not a micromanager. That's not his thing. A lot of times when I do podcast without Rob, I'm hoping he doesn't listen because then I can you know, I need to be micromanaging more. Oh, I would probably agree.

[00:43:24] I agree that I am talking about me specifically that I've gotten away with some some some crimes on the podcast because I know Rob isn't listening. So if Rob's out to actually start to micromanage a little bit

[00:43:36] more, I think the products cleaner but you know, you lose the character, you know, the spirit of the show that Rob let us cook. Okay. I mean, isn't that what I do? Yeah, keep letting us cook. Okay, let me cook. All right. Matter of fact micromanage everyone else.

[00:43:52] Let me do it. My thing. That's right. That's right. Yeah. Yeah, everybody else is like I need I'm going to micromanage some of the other people a little bit more not me not me per se but the other people yeah, definitely more micro magic there.

[00:44:06] Imagine one of these podcasters, you know, like ponding off a podcast somebody else and like turning down attention like hey, I want to give you the spotlight. They're like no. No Rob. Yeah. Sure. I'll be on the update but then you get on there and it's somebody else.

[00:44:22] Yeah, right. These people we love the mic the mic loves us. All right, Chappelle the mic loves you. Where else can people hear you podcasting here? R.A.J.P. This is what I do. Yeah, check out the House of Villains coverage is great.

[00:44:40] Me and Jenny are having a great time. So it was amazing. Follow me on Twitter at Chappelle's on this show and I'll tweet out the link when that when we drop those episodes. All right. Great job here today. I'm at Rob's history.

[00:44:50] No be back tomorrow to talk about season 7 episode 4 here on a suits yourself. Take care of everybody. Have a good one. Bye.