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[00:00:00] Hey, how'd it go? Well, if you're wondering if I convinced Paula to take me on, the answer is yes. I am her lawyer now. We have a settlement meeting tomorrow, and this is the last we will speak about it ever again. Lewis. No, Harvey.
[00:00:13] Paula is my client now. And I don't want to have to worry about you sticking your nose in a case that you think you can handle better than me. I don't think I— Because if you could handle it better than me, you would.
[00:00:21] But you can't because you're too involved and you know it. You're right. She's in good hands. I'll stay out of your way. No, not good enough. I want your word because I will drop it right now. Okay, Lewis. You have my word. Suits Season 7 Ep 5 is over.
[00:00:39] And if you're ready to hear us talk about Brooklyn housing and Suits Yourself, I'm Rob Cesternino back here with the guy who's just finishing up a game of desktop cornhole. It's Chappell. Chappell, how are you? Rob, I'm good. Do people really have the desktop games?
[00:00:56] I've worked in offices for a very long time and I don't think I've ever seen someone just sitting around playing like cornhole. First of all, I just found out what cornhole was maybe like 10 years ago. I didn't know it was a thing.
[00:01:07] But to see people have it on their desk like Lewis, to say it's therapeutic, I was kind of surprised by that. Is that the thing you're used to? I have a feeling it's like one of those things that are like,
[00:01:16] if you ever are like on an airplane and they have like the Air Mall magazine, they may not even have that anymore. That might be like a relic. Yeah, that used to be a thing.
[00:01:25] And you could see like anything that would be like from like the sharper image, like horrible holiday gifts that you would just get for people that you're just giving up. Like that would be one of them. Desktop cornhole. Yeah, it's in that as only seen on TV aisle.
[00:01:41] You know, like it's only seen on TV, but yet here it is in the grocery store for like $7. I've been in that aisle before. I might go look for this because again, I don't have a desk anymore per se.
[00:01:52] I'm more like I'm like in a table situation right now. But like I've seen those little rock gardens that you can like, you know, I don't know if you scrape them or what do you do with them? Like rake the little gardens or whatever little Zen garden.
[00:02:04] Is there a bonsai tree in there? Yeah, something like that. Like Daniel Hartman used to have? Yeah, that's what I'm thinking of. Yeah, Daniel Hartman. Lewis is very Daniel Hartman-esque. I see a lot of the parallels. That's his mentor. Okay, well, here we go.
[00:02:18] Brooklyn housing as we're dealing with a couple of things going on. Mike is still working on this prison case. Everybody in Mike's life is like, Mike, slow down. Like, what are you doing here? Does not care. He's going to keep going.
[00:02:34] Even Rachel at the end of this is like, Mike, what the hell is wrong with you? I think she's starting to question her choices here. You know, Rachel got a relationship with somebody who she knew was a fraud.
[00:02:48] And who she knew was lying to her pretty much all the time. And I don't know if he ever like really got fully transparent with Rachel at any point until maybe recently.
[00:02:59] And so to see him kind of backtrack and start like, Rachel, I got this housing thing I'm working on. You know, it's I think she thought she had like kind of, I don't know, jumped over a hurdle. No, no hurdle.
[00:03:12] No, she doesn't even know that he's working to get Frank Gallo out of prison. What's Rachel going to say when I'm like, OK, yeah, fine. OK, you know, the thing that I'm working on that I'm not supposed to be working on that
[00:03:24] I'm betraying Harvey's word and that I signed the document saying that I would never work on it. I'm also trying to get the guy who tried to kill me out of jail. OK, is that such a big deal? Like, leave me alone.
[00:03:37] I'm just trying to keep my word to who? Who are you trying to keep your word to at this point? You just decide tomorrow that you want to keep your word to somebody else because, yeah, if Rachel doesn't know, right, we know that.
[00:03:48] But Oliver is even questioning this and this is all his fault. Oliver is the one who's like, Mike, you got to do this, goddamn, please. You can't leave me hanging like this. Oh, my God, you got to wait. Mike, you want to get a guy out of jail?
[00:03:59] I'm trying to kill you. Yeah, well, that's not great. Don't do that. Mike, what is wrong with you? So, well, there's innocent people could be getting you could be getting murdered. Like five years, two years. What does it matter if he kills me tomorrow or in five years?
[00:04:15] It's like how many innocent people can you help in five years versus how many you can help in two years? Mike, it's simple maths here. Simple maths. But, you know, he's down bad when he wants to work with Frank Gallo.
[00:04:25] Did you think Frank Gallo would be coming back of the conversation so quickly? No, no, I thought we were done with him. Honestly, I don't even know what Mike was like going in there to try to like offer Frank
[00:04:34] Cahill, sorry, Frank Gallo, where Frank Gallo is like, well, you have no jurisdiction here. You can't get short of my sentence. Mike's like, yeah, that is true. I can't. I really am not. I'm working on a civil case. Hmm. There must be something I could do for you.
[00:04:51] It's got to be something. There's some evidence here and there that I can pull some strings, maybe to find out. So I went to Sean Cahill. He laughed in my face. He said, which we didn't even get on screen.
[00:05:04] They couldn't even pay Sean Cahill to come in because I know they gave that man the call. And he's like, still we're still doing this. No, no, I'm not coming back just to tell Mike Ross. No, I went to Sean Cahill.
[00:05:15] He gave me the finger and physically escorted me out of his office. So that's not going to happen. Yeah, he didn't even meet with me. He looked at me through one of those big clear wall windows that they have in the law firms
[00:05:29] where you can see your receptionist from your desk. And he just waves the receptionist off like, no, no, don't let him in. No, no, no. I know it's Mike Ross. No, we're not taking his calls. Send them on. We don't need to do this.
[00:05:40] Everybody at home gets it. Mike Ross is an idiot. So here we are. Yeah, so here we are. And so Mike is hiding all this from Harvey, who is getting like understandably pissed. Like, Mike, what the hell? Like, do you know how much money I'm paying you?
[00:05:54] Or you do know how much money I'm paying you, right? Right. For you to not work here. He's like, has anybody seen Mike? No. Is there a reason why I gave him a bazillion dollars?
[00:06:06] Like four episodes ago, but Mike, no, it was one for me, one for you. It's like, yeah, but I kind of need you here to do the ones for me. When are you going to be at home? Chappelle, are you following what the story is here about?
[00:06:19] Like what Mike is closing in on at the jail? It sounds like that the jail was like paying people to be like sort of like NHL type goons and like start fights with people. But I'm not exactly sure why. Well, you've talked about this before a little bit.
[00:06:36] You were telling me that, you know, the prison business is all about having people in in those seats. Right. And we saw that people were getting out because they were dying. They were basically dying in prison because they were underfunded. They didn't have infirmary tools.
[00:06:50] They didn't have enough staff. And so we were like, OK, that's an interesting call, you know, to try to go half kill everybody so you can save money. But by paying people like Frank Gallo or other inmates, it seems that
[00:07:04] the prison would be trying to start fights to keep people who were going to be released to stop them from getting out. So they're basically like, oh, you got 18 months sentence for doing, you know, for stealing something. Let's make it five years because you got in a brawl.
[00:07:20] It's like, but I didn't get in a brawl. I got jumped. It's like, yeah, but we saw too many people were getting out of jail. That was the problem. They were getting released too soon. And so we had to extend extend these sentences.
[00:07:33] Yeah, like we we make money from keeping you here. But then not only do we keep you here, but we don't have the staff to hold you down. And if you get in one of these prison fights, you might die. But it's the prison system.
[00:07:46] They're playing fast and loose with these people's lives. OK, so all right. This is quite a scam that they're running. It's a lot. Yeah, it's a lot. Yeah. That damn Brooklyn housing scam, you know? OK, so we get where Mike is like, where do we leave off?
[00:08:06] I guess. So Mike is trying to get money for Frank Gallo. If Frank Gallo is going to cooperate with this case. I mean, there's so many things here that are just like, Mike, how do you feel like Harvey's not going to find out about this?
[00:08:20] Like Harvey's not going to know you went to Frank Gallo of all people to try to work on this case that you're not supposed to be working on. Yeah, he's jeopardizing a lot to do this, like a lot because on brand.
[00:08:36] Yeah, he's jeopardizing PSL because y'all aren't supposed to be doing this in the first place. Jeopardizing Rachel because he's put her in the middle of this to where she kind of feels like, dang, if something's going on, I need to know because.
[00:08:49] I mean, Harvey's going to question me and now I got a lot for you because I'm your fiance and then he's questioning like he's putting his life in jeopardy just to deal with Frank Gallo. But what about his own job?
[00:09:00] Like, I know Harvey just threw Mike Ross a gazillion dollars. But through the bag at him. Have you ever considered firing Mark Ross? You know what? What in the world would happen if I were to say, you know what? He said he should. He should fire. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:09:17] Hey, Mike, I know I really, really wanted you to work at both law firms. I know that we talked about that. I begged you to come back. You told me you'd never work here, but I thought I knew best. I gave you one for you, one for me.
[00:09:30] I handed you a truckload of money, but it's been two weeks. What if what if you didn't work for me now? Hear me out. You could still do pro bono cases and then I don't have to deal with you lying all the
[00:09:43] time and that I actually can be in charge of the law firm that is where my name is on the door. Is that OK with you, Mike Ross? I think we might need to start talking about renegotiating some contracts here.
[00:09:55] Mike Ross should be contracted only whenever Harvey needs Mike Ross, he'll ask him. But just to have Mike Ross on hand, he's not getting he's not getting the bang for his buck. He should be on the Holly Cromwell deal. Yes. Yeah.
[00:10:08] Well, if Harvey could ever hire somebody who would actually do what Harvey wants them to do. Yeah. Then yeah. Right, exactly. So he goes to Holly Cromwell as a headhunter, but maybe just maybe he should be finding a headhunter to replace Mike Ross. All right.
[00:10:24] Well, let's talk about Holly Cromwell because I could not believe that we brought her back again here. I'm like, what is this going to be like a series regular? She's here and they need her to get involved with this case that's going on with there's
[00:10:39] a solar power, solar panel company. It seems like that this is like very classic suits of they're representing somebody's solar panels. Somebody else is ripping off their solar panels, trying to get them out to market.
[00:10:53] The only way that Harvey can get through to this, that there's this guy named Rick who's mad about his solar panels is that we need to get Holly Cromwell back on the case. Well, H.C. Holly Cromwell, Mrs. Cromwell for the the the informed. Probably a job.
[00:11:12] Yeah, Ms. Ms. I feel like Mrs. sounds a little bit more like I don't know, like it has a little bit more weight to it, not to say that, you know, something to be. You could be Mrs. If you're not married. I feel like she's a madam, though.
[00:11:26] This woman is a lady of the night, you know, so Madam Cromwell is kind of like where that's the BB comic, you know, that's how it should look. But, you know, she needs a job because she has been exploited by PSL in the past.
[00:11:40] They told her, no, this is not going to affect your business negatively. Don't worry. We just need you to do us a little favor here and there. We're going to pay you stacks and stacks of money to come do us a thing. You know, it'll be fine.
[00:11:53] Holly Cromwell shows up in this episode like, hey, I was making millions. I'm broke now. Can you throw me a bone? Is there anything I can do for you to work? Now, I was like, OK, I guess I guess I'll give you a little shot.
[00:12:06] So, yeah, they eventually go and get Holly Cromwell, which I was surprised by. And I would be interested if she was a serious regular rob because she's she's not like these other characters. She seems to know who she is and be very, very good at what she does.
[00:12:21] And I and I like that. Her she's kind of polarizing in a way that we know Donna's not going to love the presence of Mrs. Cromwell or Madam Cromwell. I don't want to see her disappear after this episode. I think she's a good character.
[00:12:32] Yeah, I think she's a good character as far as like main characters like suits has been interesting. And, you know, I actually admire this that we're seven seasons in. I don't think they've ever added anybody else to the main cast through seven seasons,
[00:12:47] despite all the people that have come and gone. So, I mean, I mean, we didn't even see Alex Williams here in this episode. Doolay. Yeah. But that being said, she wants a job. And then Harvey, who we've seen Harvey as manager is like, all right, just give them
[00:13:05] every give them anything they want. They want to be partner. They want to be this. They want to be this. OK, fine, fine. Shut up. Just take it. And Donna is the one who, again, who's like, oh, I think we need to have a talk about this.
[00:13:18] I don't think we should hire her because she's not loyal. Yeah, so Harvey starts with that same train of thought, though, because when he when he talks to Miss Cromwell, when she first comes and ask him for a job, he's like, I don't
[00:13:33] know if I would work with somebody who crosses as many lines as you do. And I'm thinking, Harvey, are you OK? Someone who crosses lines, that's kind of your thing, right? You might cross. I mean, everybody's currently crossing lines right now.
[00:13:48] Donna just went from legal secretary to CEO with no type of background or training in either the you know, in that thing at all. Just it made that jump just because she was willing to cross the line. So maybe dial that back a little bit.
[00:14:00] But when it comes to Donna, she's like, hey, man, this lady do shady stuff, right? She backstabbed her first employer for us. To be fair, Harvey said nobody would ever find out about that. But he lied. He doesn't really keep his word there.
[00:14:14] But Donna says, yeah, if she flipped on her on an employer the last time they needed her, what would make her not flip on us? And so Donna is kind of like, hey, Holly, nice meeting you. So I hear you're a sex worker now.
[00:14:28] That is not the problem. However, it does make me take pause. Donna, there was a lot of energy and negative energy toward Miss Cromwell who had done nothing to anybody. I don't know. I didn't really love it. Well, I also got that.
[00:14:41] I think she is suspicious that Harvey is dating her. Like, I think that she is like, OK, the I sense a disturbance in the force. Harvey is dating somebody. Something is off here. And this is the only other woman that Harvey has talked to me about.
[00:14:57] So he must be dating her. Right, which is weird, because Donna, why do you care? You know, Donna, you. But why do you care? You know, in the past, we know that Donna has had relationships that we have not even seen off screen relationships, allegedly.
[00:15:15] Now I'm starting to wonder if Donna be lying, if Donna's would be making up relationships so she'd be like, oh, yeah, Harvey, I'm so interested. Oh, my God, I got a lot of stuff going on. Because why are you so defensive about Miss Cromwell?
[00:15:26] Honestly, Harvey could potentially have been intimate with this woman. And that still doesn't change the nature of Donna's job. She's like Harvey just wants to give her his new girlfriend a job here because he likes to give jobs to everybody.
[00:15:40] But by the time Donna's done talking to Miss Cromwell, she's like, no, I'm good. I don't actually want to work here anymore because y'all suck. I hate y'all. Did Donna fumble the bag here on getting Cromwell to work at PSL? Yeah, I mean. I think so.
[00:16:02] I think that Miss Cromwell was able to get Harvey the information he needed in one day. She seems to be very effective at what she does. And so I think this is a meeting with the producers.
[00:16:13] I think that Donna, the character, is talking to the creators of the show and saying, we haven't brought on another series regular in a very long time. Like we haven't done it. The principal cast has not expanded yet. What about Miss Cromwell?
[00:16:27] And they say, look, we can bring her in every now and then, but she's not going to be here every day. So case to case basis, she'll do contract work only and then like write it in stone.
[00:16:37] I don't think this is the last time we're going to see her, but she's not getting an office at Pierce Inspector. Sorry. Okay. We'll see when she shows up again, Holly Cromwell. Okay. Let's talk about then what's going on here as we've seen Lewis with his therapist,
[00:16:53] as now Harvey needs to bring Lewis in to deal with Harvey's therapist slash girlfriend. And she needs a lawyer and she is dealing with her former boyfriend slash business partner who is suing her.
[00:17:10] And Lewis has to take the case because Harvey is not going to be able to represent his girlfriend slash former therapist. Yeah, Harvey's too close to it. So, and I like Lewis in this episode because when Harvey comes to Lewis, he says, yes, I got you.
[00:17:29] And we've been seeing a lot of that recently where Lewis is very ready to play ball with Harvey as a partner. He's like, as long as we're on the same playing field, as long as it's me and you, Pearson
[00:17:41] lit or whatever, or a Specter lit, I guess just SL, as long as it's that combination, Lewis is down. And so he's like, yeah, I'll help you. And he even tries to work with Harvey on, okay, well, this is your therapist, but you
[00:17:55] can still give her legal advice. But then he lands on, oh, wait, y'all got a relationship together. Yeah, you absolutely cannot touch this at all. And so what the case is that her business partner, the name is Jacob and he's suing her. And then what was it?
[00:18:12] It turns out that Jacob was like, they had a relationship together and it was more than just business. Yeah. Something like that. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, so Lewis is going to be working on this case and that Harvey swears. Okay.
[00:18:32] We did not start seeing each other until after the statute of limitations or whatever had ended. And so the guy, Jacob, his lawyer's coming in a little hot. Yeah, and he is. And it kind of feels like, dang, maybe Jacob got a point here.
[00:18:55] But then we find out that Paula and Jacob were in a relationship until he cheated on her and left her. Now, please don't tell Harvey because you know how that goes. You know, Harvey deals with infidelity in general, like he might go kill the man.
[00:19:07] But do you notice the moments where some of the information is getting to Lewis, where it seems like Lewis is kind of starting to relate to Jacob a little bit? Like, yeah, I mean, he's going to talk about that was his therapist, that he feels like that.
[00:19:19] Okay, well, yeah, he cheated on Dr. Agard and also Lewis. He didn't cheat, but he was also kind of an a-hole. Yeah, and then he wanted her back, right? And now it's like he can't get her back. And so maybe this is retaliation.
[00:19:38] Regardless, Lewis has to get this like this, this like shut down. And he recognizes something that he's been avoiding, his behavior that caused Tara to leave. And he needs to work on himself before he's ready for another relationship. So there's a lot going on here.
[00:19:54] But Dr. Lipschitz is like, man, Lewis, you're really finally getting there, man. Yeah, and he's like, I don't know. I usually don't do this because, you know, all my clients suck. But you, Lewis, you might have what it takes. You might be somebody.
[00:20:11] I was like, OK, Lewis, step up in the right in the right direction. He needed to heal a few episodes ago. I was I was worried about what Lewis might do next. And now I'm like, OK, he's on the up and he's going to be all right.
[00:20:23] The kid's going to be all right. I hope so. This lawsuit is kind of weird, too, right? Like that. How many clients did Dr. Agard steal from Jacob that he needs to sue her? Yeah, it's like the clients came running to her and be like, Jacob is
[00:20:41] bro, I do not want to use him as a therapist. You're crazy. And she's like, I mean, like Harvey, I know I agreed that I wouldn't take his clients, but he does kind of suck. Like I dated him. I know this guy's an asshole. Yeah.
[00:20:55] Yeah, he cheated on me. I guess I can take the clients, you know? Must have been a lot. Must have been a lot. And she was like the whole time, I got some legal advice for y'all.
[00:21:03] I got some I got some therapy for you because apparently whatever Jacob was doing was leading them off a cliff. All right, Chappelle, let's see who gets the Liddy in this episode. Okay. So you mentioned you're impressed with Lewis.
[00:21:18] Are you impressed enough for Lewis to get a Liddy? Hmm. I mean, we don't have a lot of options. Well, I think also let me pitch you somebody else. How about Rachel, who is the one to actually say to Mike at the end of the day, like,
[00:21:35] Mike, what is wrong with you? Like, she's actually taking Harvey side in like you. She wakes up and he's like, oh, I got to go see Oliver. And it's like, okay, when I did her like, no, no, I got to go. I got to go see Oliver.
[00:21:48] I'm like, all right, well, Mike, what are you even doing? Right. What's happening here? You know, he's missing dinner, popping up at the clinic at all hours of the day. And she's like going there. He's not even there. He's obviously lying to her at every turn.
[00:22:08] And Rachel is at least tapped in enough to know something's going on. And somebody has to keep steering Mike in the right direction because he just can't help himself. And so I think that Rachel should get a lot of credit, honestly, for keeping him reeled in.
[00:22:22] But I mean, at some point we just started to give Rachel credit for not being Mike, you know, and she's never going to be Mike. She was under his thumb for so long, looking so down bad that I'm kind of OK with it.
[00:22:36] I think I'd be good with giving Rachel the Liddy here. Well, of the two, I think I would vote for Lewis just because not only did Lewis like win the case that he was supposed to win, but also like he got the attaboy from the therapist,
[00:22:51] you know, like I think that he had like both personal and professional wins in this episode. And sometimes with the Liddy, I think we focus a little bit more on the professional. But I think it's important to not overlook the personal wins also. Right.
[00:23:05] And I cannot understate how proud I am of Lewis too in this episode because, dear God, I mean, there have been some low lows. There was moments where Lewis thought he was talking to Harvey on the phone when he was complaining to the therapist about his own life.
[00:23:19] He's like, Harvey, you hate me. I hate you too. You love, you know, you think I'm never going to be good enough, dad. I was like, OK, what is wrong with him? I thought psychotic break had happened and that we were going to have to get Lewis some
[00:23:31] some help, like we're going to have to remove him and put him in a home or some type of facility to kind of give him the real help they needed. But he's clawing back. You know, we have to give Lewis his things. I agree.
[00:23:42] OK, Chappelle, as far as references in this episode go, we really just had another reference to the Shawshank Redemption. OK, we get it, Mike. You were in jail. It happened. OK, I have a lot of feedback questions. We were a couple days ahead on the recording.
[00:23:59] So lots of feedback about season seven. So let's get into some of those here today. OK, Chappelle, let me start off with from this episode. David wrote in to say just in case you need a holiday gift. Here's one that Lewis uses himself. Desktop cornhole.
[00:24:17] Give it a toss. OK, and I have a link here for it. How much do you guess is the retail value of desktop cornhole? Desktop cornhole, maybe like $17. $17. OK, here it is on Amazon and only eight dollars and forty five cents. Oh, OK.
[00:24:42] The price of beanbags has gone down, I see. Yeah, so I think the one Lewis had was a little bit nicer than this. Yeah, that's why I like Lewis. The one Lewis had was about $17. Yeah, it was a $17 desktop cornhole.
[00:24:54] I mean, you could probably just make it with a shoebox. Yeah, and then Black Friday is here as well. You know, I'm sure like there are some sales, some decent sales. OK, and Nessa had written in that we were wondering about how much money everybody gets.
[00:25:09] OK, so Nessa, who's tapped in in the legal world, New York City, says secretaries can make between $75K and $150K, but Donna makes it out $250K to $300K. God dang. Yes. And I'm assuming there was some type of pay raise that came with being COO.
[00:25:31] I would guess so. You would love to think. You would think that, but then at the same time, you're kind of like, Donna, please. Yeah. You know, you are already making $300,000. You were already making well above the average and the mean, the median.
[00:25:44] Can you just take the COO title and go? But with the title change often comes a little extra. And Nessa also says that associates years one through three make about $160K to $250K. Junior partners make $350K to $700K.
[00:26:00] And senior partners make $750K plus their share of the firm profits. And Harvey makes between $2M and $5M a year. Yeah. And Harvey probably makes more than that off of all his little, you know, what was it?
[00:26:15] It's his other other other ventures that he was getting all the exide money from. But yeah, Rob, you don't know this, but Nessa pulled my name in the Secret Santa. Oh, OK. Nice. Yeah. Thank God. Thank God. Do you know how many cornholes I'm going to get?
[00:26:29] This is going to be amazing. All right. It's gonna be great. Thanks, Nessa. OK. AJ wrote in to say, well, go back to Stephanie, who is mad at Rachel. Isn't Stephanie justified in being pissed that a first year fresh out of law school
[00:26:46] student is her supervisor at law firms? Years in practice creates a hierarchy among associates. Even with her valuable experience as a paralegal, this seems preposterous. I feel like Stephanie really got a bad rap. I think that when she came in, we saw Louis ducking on her and thought,
[00:27:06] oh, look, another nameless, faceless associate that we're probably not going to learn a lot about. When you first saw her and that guy, you don't think these people are ever coming back.
[00:27:15] So to then see that, oh, she's about to continue to get dunked on and then to have a legitimate argument why she should be upset, which is y'all brought me here and now y'all are mistreating me and now you're giving this paralegal the opportunity to also mistreat me.
[00:27:28] And now you're giving a legal secretary the position of COO while I'm sitting down here slumming it with a bunch of first years. Yeah. Stephanie should be very upset. I'm pretty sure that Stephanie was fuming with all the things like I can't even imagine going to work.
[00:27:43] You're like, how do you even tell somebody that's where you work? Like, yeah, they just promoted the secretary to COO. And then some lady who hasn't even finished law school is telling me all about my damn job and stuff like that.
[00:27:54] You know, like I'm pretty sure Stephanie was in hell the whole time. Yeah. I mean, they got lucky that she didn't sue them. Right. No, they lucky she didn't slap them. I mean, Stephanie should have just started punching people.
[00:28:07] Angela wrote in to say about Alex's blackmail that he went back to his old firm with. Angela wants to what did Alex do? We're going to find out, right? Are we like, is that done? Are we done with that? Yeah, I think we're done with that.
[00:28:26] I think there's just like, oh, we couldn't come up with anything to give him that would be damning enough to where we can talk about it. So we just allude to something really being really bad and then just saying, but it's taken care of now.
[00:28:39] You know, we want you to still like him. So we're not going to tell you. Yeah, we can't tell you he did something despicable because then you won't like him. And it's Dulé Hill. He's, you know, USA's golden child. So they can't tank Dulé Hill.
[00:28:52] Rob, if I found out Dulé Hill did something bad, I'm going to cry. OK, I think we're not going to find out. So you don't have to worry. Yeah, I hope not, because I would be very sad.
[00:29:01] Anessa also said, it's funny how the same lawyers show up over and over again in suits. But this is actually extremely accurate at higher levels. There's only a handful of lawyers practicing in the same industry as you.
[00:29:14] So you end up going against the same lawyers over and over again. You can even become professional friends and refer cases to each other that you might be conflicted out of. Real funny thing is that suits lawyers all seem to specialize in every single area of
[00:29:28] law, which is very hard to believe. Yeah, every area of law and also but they only work in like corporate is like so these are corporate lawyers. But also I could get you out of jail if I need to. You know, I respect the hustle.
[00:29:42] OK, going back to the season premiere, Camille wrote in to say, I know Harvey overpays her, but are we really supposed to believe that Donna had a spare 500K lying around? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We are supposed to believe that, sadly.
[00:30:02] I got to say, though, Chappelle, if I'm Donna's dad, I think I'm freaking pissed. Oh, you know he's mad. You know he's mad. Harvey won't let you invest in me. You had $500,000 just sitting around? She's like, we're gonna do illegal. No, dad, I can't allow it.
[00:30:19] I have schemes. Oh, no. I have big ideas. It's like, can I at least buy the lottery? Right. Can you at least buy me some lottery tickets? I'm thinking like, you don't got to give me the money, but give me a chance to put my name at
[00:30:35] the table. I want to sit at the table too. Put my name in a hat. You got to play Mega Millions or something for your dad, Donna. You know, let him live his life.
[00:30:43] But dear God, he's watching Donna walk around filthy rich and he's out here scamming his way to the middle, to the lower middle. I'm not loving this from Donna. Where's the loyalty? OK. And then one more about Donna. AJ said, No.
[00:30:59] In no state can a lawyer enter a practice of law with a non-lawyer. It's against the rules of professional responsibility. Donna can't own shares in a law firm. She must be salaried. Furthermore, why is Rachel in charge of the Associates when she's a second year?
[00:31:16] No law firm would do any of this. Also, Louis can't come back from this. This is referring to his break with Stephanie and the other guy. Yeah, this was the low. This was low and Louis has gone low before, but they keep giving her a pass.
[00:31:31] I really want the show to hold Louis accountable at some point, but they will not. OK. Chappelle, what else from season three, episode five? Man, that's about it. I feel like, you know, I was looking for Dulé to pop up. He didn't.
[00:31:44] So I'm assuming that we're going to get more of him. But for the most part, it was a cool episode. I think that it's moving the needle on Mike Ross. What are you doing? A lot more of that conversation needs to happen.
[00:31:55] But I'm very excited to see what happens next. OK, Chappelle and in the Facebook group, our associates are posting a ton of good stuff. Carrie said, give this show enough time and it corrects itself. Season seven is starting off strong. I agree. I agree.
[00:32:13] I think a lot of people were not OK with Suits being in prison. Suits in jail did not really work for me. But this reset that we're doing with Mike Ross back out, I think it gets back to the heart of what we liked about the show.
[00:32:25] So more of this, please. All right. Chappelle. Anything else before we wrap up for today? No, you know, join the Facebook community again. There's a lot of good stuff in there, a lot of good comments. We got a lot of posts, articles and stuff.
[00:32:40] All our Suits associates are tapped in. And so, yeah, you can be one, too, if you just go to suitspodcast.com slash Facebook and join the community. All right. Well, great job here today. We'll be back to talk about season seven.
[00:32:52] Episode six is actually going to be this was episode 97. Move back to episode 98 tomorrow for everybody who missed us over Thanksgiving. I appreciate you giving us a day off earlier this week for our holiday celebrations. And we're so thankful for all of our associates out there.
[00:33:12] Thank you for joining us. Take care of a good one. Bye. Bye.

