Suits Season 7 Ep 9 Recap | Shame

[00:00:30] amp Rewatch Podcast, Rob Cesternino amp, Chappell Did you file that TRO? Yeah, first thing this morning. And did you read it before you did? Of course. And what are you, illiterate?

[00:01:03] Because that's the only reason I could think of as to why you'd send a restraining order that says their product's inferior to ours. What? That's right, inferior. As in different. No, I couldn't have used that word.

[00:01:13] Well, you could have if you're the world's worst lawyer, which you apparently are. Because you just invalidated our whole goddamn case. Because if they're different, they couldn't have violated our patent.

[00:01:22] Okay, Lewis, I'm so sorry. You told me to think of that guy laughing at how bad a father I was. Are you saying this is my fault? No, I'm saying- Because this is not my fault. This is your fault. I know. I am so sorry.

[00:01:31] No, what you are is off this case. Lewis, please. No, you shut the hell up! Our client trusted you with something special, with something they love. And then you snuck around behind their back and you did something stupid and reckless.

[00:01:43] And you ruined their life, you worthless, selfish son of a bitch! Suits, season 7, episode 9 is over. And if you're ready to hear us talk about shame, then suit yourself. I'm Rob Sestradino back here with a fierce manly butterfly. It's Chappelle. Chappelle, how are you? Shame. Shame. Shame.

[00:02:13] Ring the bell. Shame. Shame. Shame. Rob, this is one of my favorite suits references that we've had so far. Because it was so blatantly a ripoff of Game of Thrones and it made me smile.

[00:02:25] Yeah, that Lewis even had to say, hey Gretchen, remind me to take Game of Thrones off of my DVR. Okay, here we are, episode number 101 from September 6, 2017. I don't know when that walk of shame for Queen Cersei happened on Game of Thrones.

[00:02:46] But probably, you know, not too much before September 6, 2017. Yeah, this walk of atonement that we had from Cersei was a crazy episode of Game of Thrones. And here we have Lewis doing a similar walk, but it's not a walk of atonement. It's literally a walk of shame.

[00:03:03] He's not trying to fix anything. He's not trying to cleanse himself and give himself to the High Sparrow or whatever the case may be. There's no step to Yunella following him around.

[00:03:13] It's just Lewis coming into the office after a night of passion with Sheila's ass and a morning of nipple play, potentially. That led him to feeling very conflicted about his feelings.

[00:03:26] You know, he walks into the office and there's a whole bunch of imaginary lawyers that we've never seen before ready to talk about Lewis and slut shame him until oblivion. Yes, Lewis is feeling shame.

[00:03:37] That's the name of the episode, although we don't really get to see too much about that. He kind of like moves on and he has a couple of dream sequences, but then otherwise is really on to other business, right?

[00:03:52] Yeah, he doesn't talk to Dr. Lipschitz for a very long time. He tries to put off his appointment. He tries to cancel it, basically. He's just so ashamed and embarrassed that he can't really talk to the doctor about it because he doesn't want him to judge him.

[00:04:06] But Gretchen is going to make sure that Lewis has his appointment because, one, those appointments are very important to Lewis. He needs to have them because he's kind of, you know, on tilt all the time and he's really seemingly making progress.

[00:04:18] Or even if he's not making progress, I'd hate to see what he looks like when he's not going to therapy. But also Gretchen needs some time.

[00:04:25] And so she's like, if you could just go to therapy, it would be great because that would give me time to breathe from you.

[00:04:30] So by the end of the episode, he does have to address the feelings of shame that he had after sleeping with Sheila's ass just by coming clean to Dr. Lipschitz and letting him know, hey, I've been a bad boy.

[00:04:41] OK, Chappelle, this is a big Brian episode, of course. Brian, one of the new characters who emerged here in season seven. We know Brian was having a baby.

[00:04:52] You said not too long ago that, hey, Brian, if you know what's good for you, do not bring this baby to the office. Do not bring this baby around Lewis Litt. He stole a cat.

[00:05:07] And what happens here by the end of the episode, Lewis Litt shows up at Brian's house and he says, Lewis, here, take my baby. Yeah, I was yelling at the end of the episode, please, Lewis, do not take the baby.

[00:05:25] I don't think Brian knows what he has done. He handed Lewis a crying baby and said, I'm about to go to sleep. Do whatever you want. I have some bad news, Brian. You might be a bad dad. You might be.

[00:05:39] I know you're a bad lawyer, but you might be a bad dad too. You might be an awful father because you just handed your baby to a man who called you a worthless piece of shit just minutes before.

[00:05:52] I mean, the episode, obviously, but the same day this man called you a worthless, selfish sack of shit. And by the end of the night, you're so tired and a son of a bitch and amongst other things, honestly.

[00:06:02] And by the end of the episode, you're like, OK, but I really need to get some sleep. Here you go. Here's my baby. Take it and do whatever you want with it. We are led to believe that Lewis is not going to kidnap the child.

[00:06:14] Rob, I'm not sure. We will see what happens. It is the midseason finale coming up next. So we'll see what happens with Lewis and the baby. Do we know Brian's baby's name? No, we don't.

[00:06:27] But the actor who plays Brian, he was looking very familiar to me this entire time. And I was trying to figure out where I knew him from. This is Craig from Degrassi. And Craig from Degrassi, you know, Degrassi Next Generation, famously Canadian show as well.

[00:06:41] He had some bipolar issues in the show. And there was a moment where he really thought that he was going to have a baby. And he was acting kind of weird around the baby as well. I think he tried to kidnap the baby.

[00:06:55] So maybe there's a little bit of a, you know, some synergy here. Yeah, exactly. He was not able to get his baby that he was trying to have with the young Manny Santos. But that's neither here nor there. Happy to see Craig still getting work.

[00:07:10] People also don't know this, but he was in that Disney Channel show about all the little babies. It was like, not like Cheaper by the Dozen, but something like that, where he was like one of like seven little babies. Yeah, I remember Craig back in the day. OK.

[00:07:27] Yeah, it's come a long way. Yeah. All right. Well, Brian, he is letting Louis babysit his kid. I feel bad for Brian's wife too also because one, she's going to wake up to Louis lit in her house. Who's in a suit.

[00:07:43] You would think that Louis would have changed to maybe like, hey, let me put on sweats or something to come over to Brian's house and not have this baby say you just got spit up on. Louis is very expensive suits.

[00:07:55] That being said, I think he would at least take the jacket off. Yeah, Louis doesn't know what he's doing either. You know, that's one thing we do know.

[00:08:03] But for Brian's wife, though, that we had where OK, we know that Brian, you know, maybe this is why he's having some problems at work. You know, he works all day at PSL and then he comes home and then he has the night shift with the baby.

[00:08:17] But then he pulled an all nighter at work and Brian's wife had the day shift and the night shift. Yeah. And so the best thing Brian could do was to take the L and, you know, cover his shift as necessary.

[00:08:29] But wait, why would he do his own fatherly duties when Louis is right there? A free nanny. Nothing sounds suspicious about that at all. Yeah. All right. Well, that's what was going on with Louis and Brian.

[00:08:43] They have this whole storyline with the company was again like every suitcase was some kind of like patent insurance. They were doing infringement on the nipples. They were ripping off another company's product. We didn't get to see Sheila at all in this episode.

[00:09:00] Do you feel like for Sheila, it was basically just like one and done of that? That was like, hey, this is my bachelorette party. Let me have one last night with Louis before I end up marrying this man and I'm done with Louis forever.

[00:09:15] I mean, that's essentially what she told him is just like, yeah, before I go down the aisle, I need to experience your body. One last time. And so she told Louis, I got an itch. I got a scratch and you're going to help me scratch it.

[00:09:28] And then I'm going to go on about my day. Now, throughout this episode, I was questioning if the things that Louis has done were going to come back to bite him or to haunt him.

[00:09:37] Because you're right. He did have a couple of dream sequences where there's even a moment where he's talking to the opposing attorney. And I was already looking at the opposing attorney kind of upside his head because the things he was saying to Brian was highly personal.

[00:09:49] He tells Brian who he's never met before. Hey, you are a bad lawyer and a bad father. Sir, how do you even know that about him? Who told you? Right. You're trying to challenge his pacifier knowledge. So he's a bad father. And then that wasn't a dream.

[00:10:06] I was actually very surprised that that wasn't a dream. Only to find out that later on, he is also Sheila's fiance in a dream. Yeah. And I was ready to have my head explode. I was like, really? Really? Are we going to do this?

[00:10:20] Yeah. Yes. Yeah. I did feel like it was real for like a split second. But I think it's only because this man was cartoonishly mad about Brian. He was like, Brian, you're a horrible dad and a horrible and a horrible lawyer.

[00:10:32] And I'm thinking we're going to get where Brian snaps out of it. And it's just a dream sequence. And Brian's like, what did you say? He says, you're a bad father. Damn. So he doubled down. I wasn't expecting that one.

[00:10:45] So, yeah, later on when Lewis is talking to the dream version of this man, he's telling them that he's Sheila's fiance and that he's never going to let go of what Lewis did and that Lewis is a horrible, worthless sack of shit that ruins lives.

[00:10:57] Turns out that this time it was actually kind of fake. OK. Gretchen has a pretty good episode. Maybe she could be in consideration for the Liddy in a little bit. But she ultimately calls Lewis out on his BS. She calls Dr. Lipschitz.

[00:11:11] She stops Brian from resigning when he wants to put in his letter of resignation. Says, don't ever talk smack about my boss in my face ever again. She threatened to slap Lewis. She also stopped Brian from resigning while also telling Brian he was an awful lawyer.

[00:11:29] Like, don't you put in your resignation letter? He's like, why? I'm not good at my job. She said, yeah, be that as it may. You don't get to run away from this. She said a man would figure out how to clean this up.

[00:11:39] Is there any toxic masculinity coming from Gretchen? She's got a lot of thoughts about who's a man, who's manly. Who's not manly enough. She's looking around this Pierce Inspector Lid and she's thinking, ain't no men here. You know, where the real men at? This ain't it.

[00:11:57] Yeah. I wonder what, again, second time I'm asking. I wonder what Gretchen's looking for here. Yeah. I don't know. Maybe Robert Zane. Look, a man amongst men. You know, I think that maybe that's who she'll end up working for.

[00:12:12] Eventually. We know that Lewis is never going to fire Gretchen because after you threaten to slap your boss, they say, no, you're still good. I think you're safe. And so if she decides to leave to go work for a real man, it'll be at our own doing.

[00:12:24] Okay. There's another storyline that's going on here. And I could not believe we did another flashback in this episode. I was like, what? Really? We're doing it again? Okay. We end up finding out 12 years ago, there was a guy named Andrew Malik,

[00:12:43] no relation to Rami Malik, who used to also be one of the kings of the USA network around this time. And so Andrew used to work at the DA's office. And this was like kind of comical that Harvey had no recollection whatsoever of who this person was.

[00:13:01] Do you think Harvey could name five other associates not named Lewis Lit that worked with him at PSL? Hmm. He does seem to have like a pretty good recollection, but maybe he just doesn't pay attention to anybody who's like an underling.

[00:13:16] But that's the thing. Harvey too was an underling at the DA's office. Him and Andrew basically had the same job. And while Harvey was kissing ass to Cameron Dennis, as Andrew said, Andy was working the night away, burning the midnight oil, doing all these cases

[00:13:32] and trying to be the best prosecutor that he could be. He was so tapped in at the offices that even he knew that like, hey Donna, I see you always running around behind Harvey, like Harvey's little lap dog.

[00:13:46] What's that about? You know, so even back in the day, Andrew was tapped in. This is a good point. This is insane. And one of like the biggest plot holes that they've ever created.

[00:13:55] Like there's no way that Harvey would not know the name of somebody that was competing with him. Harvey, the ultimate competitor who would not know that there was somebody else in the office who was also like in a similar position, like even to know, okay, that guy sucks.

[00:14:13] Like he would definitely know who everybody was. He was so far beneath him. He just didn't have time for, you know, what is it? A lion does not bother himself with the matters of sheep or something like that.

[00:14:22] Harvey's like, you're a sheep. I don't know. I don't need to know who you are. And that's actually kind of comical going throughout the episode because Andrew's like, yeah, Harvey, it's me, Andy. I'm back, baby. Harvey's like, I'm sorry. I just, the name, it doesn't.

[00:14:38] Andrew who? He's like, it's Andrew. Andrew Malik from the DA's office. Remember I used to work down the hall? Harvey's like, no, sorry. I got nothing. He should have faked it. He really did put himself in a bad spot by saying,

[00:14:52] I'm the person I have. I do not know who you are. Yeah. No, like honestly, like, could you show me like you got any type of proof that there was you? Like, I just got nothing. Donna shows up like, Hey, this guy works there for sure.

[00:15:03] Chappelle, you've never been in that position before where you just fake it, right? Andrew! Andrew! Baby, what's up man? It's you from the DA's office! I'm sorry. You know, charge it to my head, not my heart, bro.

[00:15:23] I was trying to like, I saw your face and then like, but my mind was elsewhere. It's a bit of crazy thing. It's pacifiers and stuff is wild. But yeah, dog, what's up? Yeah, you definitely got to fake it. All right. Well, he's really set off then.

[00:15:39] And that's we get the flashback to that. He's like in Donna's face and he's like, Hey, I know Harvey's not going to stay here. He's just kissing up to Cameron Dennis. I'll be here forever being the best prosecutor ever.

[00:15:52] And so now he's pissed off. He's slighted. He has an axe to grind. Mike was trying to get back on Harvey's good side and signed a client to take this guy on just off of his record.

[00:16:05] But now they realize that they may have bit off more than they could chew as they have signed a client who's also very guilty. Very, very guilty. Yeah. So Andy telling Donna that, you know, one day I'm going to be the best.

[00:16:23] I'm staying here forever and I'm gonna be the best prosecutor of all time. And you and Harvey are going to rule the day that y'all ignored me. And I know Donna wanted to be like, OK. And Harvey has never once expressed any interest in being a prosecutor.

[00:16:36] And he's fighting an invisible fight. He's like, yeah, that's right, Harvey. You're never going to be as bad as me. He's like, yeah, I didn't. I want to work in corporate law. I just kind of want to make some money.

[00:16:47] It's not really criminal stuff. It's not really my bag. Yeah. It's like, why are you? Why do you have this beef? But yes, the the Elmont Investments is the company that Mike goes and gets for Harvey to represent only because he wants Harvey to smack up Andy.

[00:17:04] He's like, hey, Harvey, you've been on the defensive ever since Jessica left. It's time to put you back on the offensive and let everybody know who the big dog is. So I got you somebody who's won 15 cases in a row and they're just itching to get beat down.

[00:17:17] What do you say, Harvey? I said, all right, let's see. Let's see what that guy's about. Now, Harvey did not realize that he'd known this man for basically his entire adult life. But yeah, once he realizes it, he thinks there should be a piece of cake.

[00:17:29] Yeah, our client might be guilty, but I'm still Harvey. I still got this. But what he doesn't know is that Andy Malick is a cross between Louis Lit and Elliot Stimple. And so this man is a scumbag.

[00:17:44] You know, Harvey might be at across the lines, but I mean, that combination of Louis and Elliot Stimple. Yeah, that's a hard duo to reckon with. So he's in for a bit of a fight, something that he kind of underestimated in the beginning.

[00:17:56] Yeah, they have a deposition where they bring their client in and he's I couldn't tell like, oh my God, like this guy's talking so fast. He's so eager to depose her. And then ultimately, like they just tell her, don't answer any of his questions.

[00:18:13] And he's like, that's it. And I don't even care if she's guilty. She's going to jail, which again, another classic suits is like opposing lawyers who seem to forget that there is a camera. At these depositions and just be wilding out at these depositions.

[00:18:32] Yeah, he's like, I don't give a shit if you're innocent or not. You're going to prison and they're like, oh, well, you said that on camera. So this is an open and shut case. We're going to show this to the judge and he's going to put this away.

[00:18:45] And so they try that. They try to go and tell the judge like, hey, we got it. He doesn't care. He's a public servant, but he's not really trying to serve the public. He's trying to put this woman in jail, whether she's guilty or not.

[00:18:59] And they tell him, OK, well, you got to go find some actual evidence. You can't just keep deposing people looking for something incriminating to come out so that you can then try to make something stick.

[00:19:08] So later on, Mike and Harvey end up in court again against this man. And before they make it there, Andy shows up with his bit of evidence. He's like, I got a copy of the paper tomorrow.

[00:19:19] What the hell was this? It's like, hey, I've got a copy of tomorrow's newspaper. Yeah, I went down to the Daily Bugle and had it printed off. What is this early edition? How does he have like I was like, is he a time traveler?

[00:19:33] How does he have tomorrow's newspaper? The newspaper is printed at night. You know, once they print it, he just went down. What time of day was this? Because the frickin woman is still working at her office. Like, is this like we're like 11 o'clock at night, 12 o'clock at night.

[00:19:47] They work the night away. They all work. They burn the midnight oil. Look, the the newspaper is printed after sports, you know, because it's normally the last bit of news you get is like whether the scores, what are the stats? And so they wrote the tennis 11 ish.

[00:20:04] You know, they started to get the last little bit of the sports scores in the football scores. And so, yeah, he went down and got an early copy of the paper in which he has a, you know, headline in there about a memo that this CEO has used.

[00:20:18] It's basically telling everybody that she wants them. Was it to sell a lot of the business before the end of the year or something like that? Yeah. She insinuated that it would be best to sell the division. And so it looks bad for her.

[00:20:30] It looks bad for her. And they have to now stop this from being a thing. But they think he's just trying to pull the wool over their eyes and distract them from what his bigger plot is. So when they end up in court, it turns out it's true.

[00:20:44] There is a fake memo. But this guy is using that fake memo to say, hey, the memo might be fake. It might be real, but I'm going to guess that it's real. And it's been buried by Harvey.

[00:20:54] And he buries evidence all the time. And I can prove it. Well, yeah. The woman from the company. Yes. OK. What's her name? Is that Janet? CEO. OK. I'm looking at the credits to see if she's either Lisa Davies or Janet Stanger.

[00:21:14] She's Janet Stanger. Lisa Davies is from the nipple. Not the nipple company. She's from the pro bono with Robert Zang. We haven't talked about it yet.

[00:21:21] OK. So. All right. So Janet Stanger, that she ends up going to see, she says, like, look, I'm not stupid enough to write a memo so that they know that this memo is fake because she's basically like admitting like she's guilty, but that there was no memo.

[00:21:39] And so they say, OK, this guy's got nothing. But because he says that there's a pattern of that, they destroy evidence in the past that he is going to ultimately figure out a way to prove it.

[00:21:51] And the judge is like very much so. Well, a leopard doesn't change his spots. Harvey, if Harvey destroyed evidence once before, this must be true of a newspaper article and proof that he destroyed evidence in the past. Good enough for me. Well, how is that the law?

[00:22:08] He told him to go find the proof. He said, look, you're accusing him of something. If you can prove that, then, yeah, I'm a believe that Harvey be bearing evidence.

[00:22:17] But you need to prove it. And so now they have to hope that this new Jay Elliot Stimple, Andy, does it actually have any proof? And Harvey's like, I'm clean, baby. You ain't got nothing on me. But Andy was there in the Cameron Dennis days.

[00:22:30] He knows that Harvey and Cameron Dennis was bending the rules left and right. And he thinks that, yeah, maybe Harvey knowingly was doing some of that stuff with Cameron Dennis.

[00:22:38] And so he's going to try to find some evidence the best way he knows how by probably asking Cameron Dennis or at least that's what Harvey thinks. But Cameron Dennis would not just, you know, make up something and let Harvey take the fall for it.

[00:22:53] We know he was willing to let Harvey take the fall for it, but he wouldn't just do it on the back of this Andy.

[00:23:00] Andy person who he probably doesn't remember either. So it's very obvious that Andy would have to find someone else close enough to Harvey who has some insight into the cases that he was doing at the DA's office. And that person is Donna. They're going to depose Donna.

[00:23:12] And so really, it seems like we're going through like a whole dog and pony show coming up of like, that's it, Donna.

[00:23:18] We have, you're going to get the posed. We got a mock trial. All right. We need Lewis to do the mock trial again. It was like, I can't, I can't. He will.

[00:23:27] All right. So now I guess we're going to have that in the next episode where Lewis is going to have to like break down Donna again on the stand.

[00:23:35] Why do I have a feeling that a lot of these questions about burying the evidence are going to come back to who did you like being an assistant better for me or Harvey answer the question?

[00:23:46] No, no. Objection. Irrelevant. It's not irrelevant. You know what the question is coming down to all of this.

[00:23:54] So let's just talk to the writers real quick. Aaron Korsh, creator, writers. Y'all did all of this just so we could get Donna on the stand again and ask her. So do you love Harvey? Yes or no.

[00:24:05] You helped destroy the evidence because you loved him. You loved him 12 years ago. You love him now. Answer the question. She's like, I don't. I did it. I promise. And I said, well, we got somebody who might think different. Bring in Mark. And Mark like.

[00:24:20] We're going to have to post Mark in this game. That's Mark's music. Your honor, I'd like to call to the stand Mark Meadows. Like, wow. No, this Mark Meadows. Like, oh.

[00:24:33] Oh, just that guy. OK, fine. He's like, I have on good authority that Donna is in love with Harvey because I tried to get her to help me cheat on my wife.

[00:24:43] And she said no. And that sounds like a guilty person to me. Yeah. All of this is just so that we can get Donna to confront her demons about whether or not she is in love with Harvey Specter and if she can ever move on to somebody else or if she will always be pining after Harvey, you know, working for Harvey, working with Harvey, whatever the hell.

[00:25:02] The case may be. Is there more to Donna than just being in love with Harvey? We'll find out when Lewis puts her on the stand.

[00:25:08] All right. Rachel gets a visit from her dad. Robert Zane wants to work on a pro bono case with Rachel. And OK, this is kind of building off what we had in the last episode where somehow Frank Gallo's relationship with his daughter really changed Robert Zane's outlook on things.

[00:25:30] He said, hey, remember Frank Gallo? He was a stand up guy. He was a great dad. He unlike Brian, he actually was a good dad. He cared about his kid. He didn't let Lewis watch his kid. And so he wants to work on this case with her. Harvey said it was fine off screen.

[00:25:51] Do you think that Robert Zane was lying when he said that? Did he even ask Harvey?

[00:25:58] It did not sound like anything Harvey would say. Rachel says, hey, dad, I would need to get Harvey's permission because I can't just, you know, I can't just just go work for you without, you know, Harvey signing off on it.

[00:26:12] And he says, look, I talked to Harvey and Harvey said, yeah, Robert, go be with your family. That's exactly how what I would do if I had a daughter. I totally support you taking Rachel Zane away from my office to go do your own bidding. It did not sound like him at all.

[00:26:32] He did say something recently after the episode with his mom about how family is the most important thing. So I don't know. I think that that may be that might have been what Harvey said, but I also don't think that Robert Zane asked him. I think he just said, ah, Harvey owes me one.

[00:26:47] So I saved his ass with Frank Gallo. You did not already talk to Harvey. You are a liar. All right. So he wants him to go and work on this predatory lending case. And so Robert Zane feels like he has this case against this predatory lender that seems to be preying on black people who are trying to or not getting the same rates as white lenders.

[00:27:17] Or people who are looking for loans are getting. And it seems like that he's got this case here. And again, this is like very similar to the last episode where it's like, OK, something has woken up in Robert Zane where he's trying to take on all these cases.

[00:27:35] Yeah, it felt like Robert Zane was more tapped into some of the things that are the external reasons why he would like to go into law. Right. Like so he is very much a corporate lawyer. But now he's like, hey, you know, there are definitely things that the system is, you know, there are definitely ways, I guess I should say, that the system is unfair to people of color.

[00:27:58] And man, I should really start to explore those things and use my powers to shut some of that stuff down. And so this case, we're led to believe that Robert Zane is doing this because, you know, there is a disparity in the amount of lending and the rates and, you know, basically the money that African-Americans can get as opposed to their white counterparts. But that is a lie.

[00:28:19] Yeah. Not why Robert Zane is doing this at all. This was personal. Yeah, Robert Zane said, no, this is about my auntie, my aunt, my sister, whoever the case is. I think it was Rachel's aunt. Yeah, Rachel's aunt. Well, he said, it's your aunt. But then it didn't sound like, and then I lost my sister. It just felt like it was almost like, man, you would have loved her. She was a great woman. She was 25 years ago. She was like, you know, 23.

[00:28:38] But yeah, great woman. Rachel's aunt was fired by the CEO of this company that is being accused of these crimes. And Robert Zane is going to make him pay because his sister's life never recovered from her being sexually harassed and then fired by her boss. And so now he's willing to go to the ends of the earth to make this happen.

[00:28:59] Yeah. OK. I don't know if we're going to keep going with this case. We kind of got to, you know, Rachel and Robert Zane talk about it a little bit and they're kind of like, all right. Are they just going to look for dirt on this guy? I mean, is this even still a pro bono case at this point? Seems like a witch hunt where that they like were doing their due diligence here and deposing people. And it seems like that there's no case here.

[00:29:29] No, it's literally a witch hunt. Like Robert Zane. Is that a pro bono witch hunt?

[00:29:34] Yeah, because Robert Zane is like, no, this guy is guilty of something and I'm going to find it. Now don't get me wrong. There is evidence to suggest that, yes, there is a disparity, but it does not. It doesn't seem like they're going to be able to prove that in court because like you said, Robert Zane is just grasping at straws. He's like, look at this one and look at this one. Isn't that crazy?

[00:29:54] It's like, yeah, it is. But Robert, you got to give us more than that. And so him and Rachel are not going to regroup and decide, okay, if there anything else that we can make stick on this guy, because we're going to take him down if it's the last thing we do.

[00:30:05] Okay. Chappelle, who gets the litty here in this episode? Hmm. I mean, you weren't wrong about Gretchen having a great episode, but I mean, Lewis, if Lewis kidnaps that baby, I swear.

[00:30:26] I mean, I don't think you've Louis the Liddy here. I mean, he was completely down bad after going with Sheila to the point where then he just like reamed out after everything that already happened earlier this season with yelling at the associates with Stephanie.

[00:30:47] I mean, for him to treat Brian like that.

[00:30:50] What about Donna for the Liddy or Rachel? I think that we might need to look at these two women because I think Harvey is in over his head and doesn't realize it or is realizing it quickly. Mike set Harvey up for all of this. So this is Mike's fault.

[00:31:05] Donna and Rachel, I think they kind of got away clean this episode. Donna is going to have to be put on the stand and yelled at about her love for Harvey eventually, but not in this episode. And Rachel was there for Donna at the end.

[00:31:17] She was there for dad. I mean, I personally would give it to Gretchen before either of them. All Gretchen did was yell at Louis and yell at Brian. And yell at Brian. What did Rachel do? Rachel was helping her dad with his pro bono case.

[00:31:32] What did she do to help? She looked through files. She looked through files. I think she was sort of like, dad, I don't know if there's a case here. Yeah, she's like, hey, baby, come on. So what about Donna? Hmm. But for what? Again, she's here.

[00:31:51] You're saying that Gretchen didn't do it, but at least I can tell you things that Gretchen did. Yeah, no, look, she said, you know, the one thing I it's not that I regret that I let Mark go. I regret that I put Harvey above myself.

[00:32:03] I mean, which I guess is a good lesson. Like literally stand up, Donna. Literally stand up. But she knows it. OK, so for me, it's between Rachel and Gretchen. I'm good giving Gretchen the the lady. But I do want to point out again that Rachel top two again.

[00:32:16] Yeah, she's doing a good job. We made history in the last episode. Episode 100, we gave one to Robert Zane. I think that it's fitting that we then give another newcomer a lady to Gretchen. Yeah, it'll fix the disparity between the ladies that we've been having ever since Jessica.

[00:32:34] She had the black folk on their back for a very long time. And now we got Robert and Gretchen kind of trying to carry the weight. I'll take it back to back. All right.

[00:32:43] So then as far as the references in this episode go, that, of course, we had the big one about the Thrones. And then also we had where Lewis called Brian Mufasa. Also, he wanted to see only Mufasa Brian from that point on.

[00:33:01] Yeah, that lion comes out when he is being accused of being a bad dad. He actually turned he actually turned into Lewis in a way. You know, we talked about Lewis and projection, how Lewis perceives disrespect. And so he gives disrespect back and then it pushes people away.

[00:33:15] Brian basically did the same thing. I mean, like he was acting just as how just how Lewis would react in these situations. Oh, my God. That was the best. Yeah. That man said you're a bad father. And Brian lit him up.

[00:33:31] I'm talking about a man. If you were taking you down, I'm gonna sue the pants off of you. And I'm going to slap you with a restraining order. But because he was so blinded by Lewis like rage, he effed up the restraining order.

[00:33:43] He put in there like, yeah, your product's inferior now. And only to find out that if it's inferior, it's not a copy. So, duh, you shouldn't get in there. And so, yeah, he was doing the things that people always accused Lewis of doing.

[00:33:59] And Lewis had to stand by and watch it happen. And for a second, Lewis was down with it. He was like, yeah, more of that. Give me that Mufasa. Who do it again? Yeah, it tingles. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:34:13] All right. So we also then got some more talk about Michael Jordan, about how he was great at playing defense. But now he's got to go back on offense. Time to put up 55 points here, Harvey. But kind of bit off more than they could chew.

[00:34:28] All right. This is like when Michael Jordan went to go play in the space jam. He didn't realize what he was getting into. Yeah. It took a big ass reach for Michael Jordan to win that game or reach from one end of the court to the other.

[00:34:41] And I think we might see some reaching here in this midseason finale coming up on suits. OK, so I have just one feedback question here for you about this episode. David wrote in to ask us, are law secretaries called to the stand this often?

[00:34:54] I feel like Donna is a witness in half of the cases in the firm against her will. She's at least won a season probably at this point. Right. It's just like you got to get Donna's perspective. But it's just she and Harvey are way too close.

[00:35:08] I think some legal secretaries, you can put them on a stand. The best they could say is, look, I don't know. You know, I was there, but I did my job.

[00:35:15] I went home. But with Donna, it's like, did you or did you not meet Harvey at his bedroom before that happened? It's like, well, yeah, I kind of was there. I probably should have been there, but I was there.

[00:35:26] It's like, yeah. And Donna, did you or did you not pick up his dry cleaning that day and drop it off to his house as he was like, yeah, I did that too. You know, Donna is very much a part of Harvey.

[00:35:34] They are one person when it comes to this show in a lot of ways. And so whenever someone has an issue with Harvey, it only makes sense for them to put Donna on the stand.

[00:35:43] Yeah, I feel like that what they kind of do to Donna, like this, like Saturday night. What does Donna do? She's at home and waits for Harvey. She's like, I wonder what Harvey's doing right now. I wonder what Harvey's doing. I mean, that's how they made it sound.

[00:35:58] They really did. They made it sound like, OK, Donna has no life outside of Harvey. Now, I don't believe that because we do not see Harvey and Donna ever interact outside of work. We just don't. And so I know that she has other things that she's doing.

[00:36:11] But the show really wants us to paint it like if Harvey called at two in the morning, Donna is going to pick up. And I was like, I don't think we've been given enough evidence for that.

[00:36:19] You know, Mark said it. Like we can't even get through dinner without Harvey. God dang. Yeah. Yeah. I think you could. I think you're being dramatic. OK. We saw she goes to yoga. She does go to yoga.

[00:36:28] And she seems to have a lot of friends in like other offices. She's like, I got a friend in this office. I got a friend in this office. I got a friend in this office. Like, I don't know if she ever hangs out with these people.

[00:36:38] But she does seem to know all the other secretaries in the city. Yeah, she does. But yeah, but I've never seen her actually do anything. You know, she's never like girls night out with the secretaries. Yeah. Me and Gretchen and you know, the lady from over there.

[00:36:56] At least Gretchen would go to Mahjong with the other secretaries. Yeah, Gretchen has a life. Gretchen, she's not about this. She's not about this like living for none of these people. They're not manly enough for Gretchen. No way. No. OK. This was from the Facebook group.

[00:37:09] And Tiffany S in the Facebook group had asked us, I'm begging y'all to address the wet paint sign that Rachel and Mike have in their place. It has been shown before, but it is prominently featured again in season seven, episode six.

[00:37:26] Chappelle, have you noticed the piece of art in Mike and Rachel's apartment that says just wet paint? Yeah, I have actually. It's on the wall. It's in big like like it's black, but it has like the orange letters on it.

[00:37:41] And it was in her apartment. And then I think it moved. Like I think when they got their new place, it's moved as well. And I don't really understand why. I don't think the show explains why the paint is wet.

[00:37:51] Yes. It's just like a painting that says wet paint. Yeah, but is that ironic? Is that like that you make a painting that it's wet paint and it dries? But then it even I don't know.

[00:38:05] I don't I got nothing. I don't know why they have it, but it is there. I've seen it, too. Thank you. I just don't know why we have it up there. Maybe the show will address it at one point. Maybe it'll be like the painting in Harvey's office.

[00:38:16] We'll get a whole backstory flashback episode about when the day that they painted the wet paint sign. Right. Gotcha. I hope so. I want all my questions answered. Every question that's going to be part of the prequel series. OK. Yeah. All right.

[00:38:30] And then we also got in that same thread in the Facebook group. Go to Suits Podcast dot com slash Facebook if you want to join the conversation. Sarah wrote in to say they also have a decor item that is the letter F,

[00:38:45] but neither of their first or last names start with F. To which another Sarah. Sarah said F for fraud. I'm sorry. That made me laugh. Yeah, it's just sitting up on the top of like the shelf and it's just a random letter F.

[00:39:07] I don't know who staged the apartment, but they never decorated it to make it look like either of them actually live there. They have a painting that's like a bicycle. Well, Mike has bicycles. Mike is.

[00:39:17] Does he love? No. Does he love bicycles or was that just his job? No, he loves bicycles. That's part of his character. He wants to hang a bicycle in his office. Because he used to ride one. Yes. He's obsessed. He loves bicycles.

[00:39:33] He hates his parents died in a vehicle and he said, I love bicycles. I will never drive a car as long as I hate cars. He didn't learn. Lewis had to teach him how to drive. He only likes bicycles. He only likes bicycles. It's canon at this point.

[00:39:48] Mm hmm. There you go. All right, Chappelle, what else? Um, I think we got some more feedback in the Facebook group that I wanted to address. Um, yeah. Sherris put in the Facebook group that she's not a fan of the theme song

[00:40:05] and to which I say she's wrong. That's it. That's all I wanted to say. Yeah, that's it. That's it. Okay. Yeah, that's it. She said it's not giving Brady Bunch, Golden Girls or Fresh Prince. It's not that good of a theme song. She's wrong. She's incorrect. It's canon.

[00:40:22] Yeah. All right. Yeah. Also, uh, that, uh, Sherris waiting to say the Donna AI storyline is garbage. It was ahead of its time. Okay. Right. Right. In 2023, that is cinema. Yeah. I mean, uh, in 2023, the Donna would be worth, uh, like $30 billion.

[00:40:39] Right. Exactly. But then they're like, we can't use this. What is this junk paperweight? Yeah. Right. Get out of here with that. Okay. Get me, get me some Bitcoin. All right. All right. Chappelle, uh, very fun times today.

[00:40:56] Uh, we'll be back with, believe it or not, the season seven midseason finale tomorrow. Yeah. The midseason finale is upon us and then we got a wrap up season seven. It's called Donna. Of course it's called Donna.

[00:41:11] Of course it's called Donna. We should, we should do a Donna counter for the next episode. How many times they say Donna in one episode? Yeah. Just because it's called Donna. We'll start with number, we'll start with one for the title and we'll just keep track from there.

[00:41:22] Yep. And so then it's going to be the midseason finale. We'll have a few months, we'll go by and then we'll get the final six episodes of season seven. Yes. And then we have two seasons left. Only one Netflix season left. We're almost done.

[00:41:39] Almost done. It'll be so weird when we go to Peacock. It really will be because this was spawned from nothing but Netflix and nothing but Netflix is, it never stays true to its name.

[00:41:49] We are going to be wavering from our place here as a Netflix affiliate to a not affiliate affiliate to go talk about a Peacock show. Season nine of Suits. Let's see how it ends. Let's see how it turns out. All right. Chappelle, where can people follow you?

[00:42:04] Follow me on Twitter at Chappelle's underscore show and subscribe to the connect on post your recaps podcast. Mario and I are talking about rap shit, wrapping that season up season two of rap shit.

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[00:42:21] So he doesn't listen to this podcast. So yeah, I'm going to spring that on him very soon. And then I'm sure nobody tell him. Yeah. Good burger too. Content will be coming your way soon as I can.

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[00:42:40] Take care of everybody. Have a good one. Bye.