Suits Season 7 PREMIERE Ep 1 Recap | Skin in the Game
SUITS YourselfNovember 22, 202300:52:37

Suits Season 7 PREMIERE Ep 1 Recap | Skin in the Game

Rob Cesternino (@robcesternino) and Chappell (@chappells_show) are recapping one episode of SUITS every day until they complete the series. In this podcast, Rob and Chappell recap the Season 7 PREMIERE Episode 1 of Suits. Be sure to go to http://suitspodcast.com to subscribe to the Suits Yourself podcast feed on the platform of your choice! Send your feedback to: http://suitspodcast.com/feedback Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Rob Cesternino (@robcesternino) and Chappell (@chappells_show) are recapping one episode of SUITS every day until they complete the series. In this podcast, Rob and Chappell recap the Season 7 PREMIERE Episode 1 of Suits.

Be sure to go to http://suitspodcast.com to subscribe to the Suits Yourself podcast feed on the platform of your choice!

Send your feedback to: http://suitspodcast.com/feedback

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[00:01:00] We've got a problem. What is it now? Take a look. Where did you get this? It doesn't matter where I got it. It's out there. You can't be sure you don't know this. What difference does that make? Because, if you didn't know, it's just bad luck.

[00:01:12] Harvey, he's the goddamn CEO. He knew. He kept it from us and he kept it from the guys buying his company. You don't know that. Yes, I do. I also know you still have time to go stop the sale from going through. Are you kidding?

[00:01:19] They signed the documents. It's already gone through. Money hasn't changed hands yet, so you still have time to stop it. I'm not going to let you do that. I'm going to stop the sale. I'm going to stop the sale.

[00:02:00] The fun is over. Be ready to hear us talk about skin in the game and suits yourself. I'm Rob Sestrodino back here with the man who's finally going to speak out about these model parties with the vodka. It's Chappelle. Chappelle, how are you?

[00:02:20] Rob, it's season seven and I am pumped. I am ready to talk about it because I do not remember any of this. This is the grayest area for me. I have no clue what the hell is going on. So this is a nice journey for me.

[00:02:36] Up until now, I've been pretty like, okay, I got the chain of events. But coming out of the gate and seeing that Donna wants big things and she's demanding her seat at the table and she's going to get it. I said, oh, okay. I don't remember this.

[00:02:50] Let's do it. Let's talk about it. Get it, Donna. Yeah. Yes. All right. She deserves. Am I crazy or are we so back? Yeah, it feels like we're back. We have Mike and Harvey doing their old thing, got the gang back together.

[00:03:06] But even now that they're more on a level playing field, it feels like they're friends as opposed to Harvey always dunking on him and being like, Mike, I'm in charge. You're not even a lawyer. Mike, I'm in charge. You're not even a lawyer.

[00:03:16] Now it's like Harvey says a thing. Mike says a thing. Mike can do what Harvey wants or he can do what he wants. And it doesn't feel like he's so incompetent or it doesn't feel like he's insubordinate. It just feels like, no, it's part of Mike's contract.

[00:03:28] He's living his own life. I'm enjoying the interplay between the two of them and it's giving me classic suits vibes. But there this is not classic suits. You know, Harvey's doing some things that to me out of the ordinary.

[00:03:41] There's some stuff with Lewis that kind of gives you some flashbacks to the beginning as well. So I'm interested in how we're going to navigate this. But I feel like after a season six where I feel like that things were a little off for the most part.

[00:03:55] Like, I feel like that this was an episode that felt very much like classic suits while, you know, Jessica's not there. You know, I did feel like we actually did law. We did a case. We did a case in a case. We did some of our old trickery.

[00:04:11] You know, we're going to put you two people in a room together and let y'all negotiate each other. But y'all don't know that y'all aren't negotiating on the against each other. Lewis was an out of control maniac with the associates.

[00:04:24] There would be no more times for Lewis to disrespect me. I'm sorry. Like if I'm Rachel and Donna, just just tallying up the amount of times Lewis has just talked crazy to them like they were less than him. Like they were.

[00:04:39] I mean, he legit used a chart this time and said, like, I'm up here. You're below her. And then you're below her. You know, like. Right. Yeah. Like, Lewis, we're done. That's not happening again. We're not friends. We're not family. I'm not the most important. Stop lying.

[00:04:53] Stop that. Yeah. Classic Lewis. He's going off on the associates. This felt like suits. I think we're back. Yeah, baby. Yeah. So I was like halfway through. I'm like, oh, this feels like much different than, you know, what the vibes from season six.

[00:05:07] You know, we're in the office. We're dealing with cases. And you know, it's like a feeling like like what the show used to be. Did we lose Benjamin? I don't know. I think he'll pop back up. I can't imagine that he's made his last appearance on the show.

[00:05:23] Yeah, but it's season seven. I feel like, you know, you you got to pop out with your principal cast. We saw Gretchen is back. I don't know if I've ever seen Gretchen and Benjamin on this on the screen at the same time. You think they're the same person?

[00:05:35] It's got to be the same actor. I mean, at this point, because who knows, right? Like a quick switcheroo and then, you know, twin twist or whatever the case may be. But yeah, I thought you pop out with your principal cast here.

[00:05:46] You see Lewis and Harvey, obviously Rachel and Mike are getting some content. Donna is pushing for a bigger spot at Pierce and Spector lit. And Gretchen is back to but no Benjamin. So I'm concerned about my boy.

[00:05:58] I don't know if he's going to make jump to season seven. Yeah. OK, well, we'll see. Yeah, I'm just looking at the like I'm trying to find like reviews of the first one of the first episode. And let's see.

[00:06:15] I guess that might be interesting to like look at some of these like you ever like look at like an episode recap from the time. Oh, from like Rotten Tomatoes or something.

[00:06:25] Yeah, I feel like some of like the state of like recapping these shows like has has changed a little bit, like from where we were like, you know, over the last decade to now, like

[00:06:38] sometimes like a lot of it would just be like these articles would just be like telling you what happened on the episode. Yeah, I found a Forbes article. I only get four free ones because they're going to try to make me subscribe for twenty

[00:06:52] nine ninety nine a year. I'm not going to do that. That'd be crazy. Right. So instead, I'm going to just look at this little preview that I could find on Google. It says ratings for season seven. This season suits will reach a milestone rarely seen on cable television.

[00:07:05] One hundred episodes, while once viewed as the gold standard for all shows looking to turn a profit, business models have changed to make shows with full, complete stories. However, 100 episodes is still 100 episodes and it's a number that will make suits infinitely resellable in years to come.

[00:07:21] Well, look at that. So would higher ratings be nice? Sure. But at the end of the day, suits is still the highest rating drama on USA. As long as that's true, it will still be sticking along for a long while to come.

[00:07:37] So it's looking like, you know, the ratings are still good, you know, despite it, you know, kind of going through some ups and downs in these last couple of seasons. But I don't see anybody like completely out on season seven, not not at least on this Forbes article.

[00:07:53] OK, so let's talk a little bit about what's going on. And this was kind of wild after 0 for season six. We had the return of Harvey's therapist is back. After a guard, a.k.a. Paula and Harvey is back to like that.

[00:08:13] I just like this was just so out of nowhere of it's so dumb. Harvey has been like after not seeing her for whatever a year for us has decided, you know what? I need to start romantically seeing my therapist. Was Harvey aroused during his therapy sessions?

[00:08:30] Is he just going there? I didn't even get into the therapist. No, seriously, because he wasn't. Well, no, no. I mean, like I didn't mean physically. I mean, like, was he going to the therapist because he was into her? I really not because he needed there.

[00:08:44] It seemed like he did not like her at various points. Maybe that's for Harvey that he has like he was emotionally charged. Yeah. I mean, that's the thing. He didn't he didn't do therapy how he should have done therapy.

[00:09:00] You know, like Harvey was not going to therapy and and being open to the process. He pushed back the entire time. This woman basically degraded him. And I think he just kept going back because he liked that feeling.

[00:09:11] Because even in this episode, when he goes there, he says, I've changed. I made up with my mom. She's like, I never told you that. It's like, yeah, but I and I got my boy back. I got Mike Ross back.

[00:09:22] She's like, that's what you thought we were supposed to take from your therapy session. Did you supposed to go make Mike Ross a lawyer again? He's like, yep, that's it. That's what I got. So I'm shocked that Harvey was going after the therapist.

[00:09:32] But now it's making me look back at that and be like, Harvey, were you even trying? May I submit to Dr. Agard? Ma'am, stand up. Yeah. No, you know where the bodies are buried here. You know, this is not going to work.

[00:09:49] You know, like all of the problems like you've gotten to see, like it's almost like buying a house like and you've inspected the foundation. You know where all the cracks are. You know that there is a lot of problems here.

[00:10:02] This place needs a lot of work and you're still like, all right. Sure. Yeah. It's like a restaurant critic going in and talk and like and doing like a scathing report

[00:10:13] on a meal and then coming back the next day and be like, you know, I think I'll try it again though. But you already had it. You knew about it. You know everything about it. And it wasn't you who had to eat it.

[00:10:24] You know, you were just doing the reviews. This was for work. Now you're coming here for pleasure. Yeah. Can't be that bad. And Dr. Agar even tells Harvey at some point, I'm starting to feel like you don't want a relationship.

[00:10:35] You just want to talk about your problems and I'm somebody that you trust because you've already told me all your problems. And so now you feel like you can come to me on a personal level and not have to deal with like, oh, scheduling a therapy appointment.

[00:10:49] Like if you could get like, I guess the best of both worlds, right? You can hang out with me. We can date. We can, you know, be romantic. But also you could tell me all your problems and issues and think I won't judge you because

[00:11:00] I already know a lot of them as a therapist. And to that I say, well, Dr. Agar, if you know that, then why did you allow him to pull up at the end in his car and then kiss all over you? Like you are correct. You're right.

[00:11:10] You're a doctor. Yeah. You've done the research. Maybe the better analogy would be like, it would be like if Chappelle was watching The Walking Dead for fun in his downtime. Right. Exactly. And he would sit around all day and I'm like, the walking dead sucks y'all.

[00:11:25] The walking dead sucks. I'm doing the podcast being like, y'all, this show is not good. And then someone's like, so what are you doing today? Well, no, I think I'm going to watch Fear the Walking Dead season six.

[00:11:34] You want to come over and watch The Walking Dead with me? Yeah. It's like, why? Because I hate myself. You want to binge it with me from the beginning? Right. And if I ever say I want to binge The Walking Dead from the beginning, you know, I'm being

[00:11:46] held hostage. Just for fun. Yeah. That's like a safe word or something for me. If I say that, please call the cops immediately. Okay. So then back at PSL, Mike is back at work and really no time jump like whatsoever. It's like the next day from the end.

[00:12:05] Are we the only ones who want a time jump, Rob? We keep bringing it up and they never give it to us. There's never a time jump, but somehow that, you know, five or six years have gone by. It's every day.

[00:12:15] Like the Daily Podcast covers every day of these people's lives. Tomorrow we have a next day, the next day, the next day. Yeah. It's a wonder that we've made it through several years of this show in only two months. Yeah. All right.

[00:12:31] So Mike, we see him resigning from the East Side Clinic. He's going to give a $500,000 check to Nathan. Now I thought that the biggest thing that they could receive was $50,000, but maybe that's one case. I don't know if this is like a charitable donation or how this.

[00:12:49] This is Mike trying to name the building after himself, basically. So later on in the episode, and then Mike is going to go back to work at PSL. Later on in the episode, Oliver is going to come back and be like, Mike, you traitor.

[00:13:04] You said you weren't going to go back and work here. Look at you. You're working on these corporate cases now. Is this going to work with Mike at PSL? I think so. I think he's fine.

[00:13:17] I think as long as he has now scratched his itch efficiently, you know, or like sufficiently, like he's like, you know, this is just like one more corporate case with me and Harvey. We just got to get this one out the way. It's closure.

[00:13:31] We got the game back together. But after this, I'm doing the good stuff. I'm doing the pro bono things. I'm trying to help the people. I think deep down, Mike Ross wanted to do that, but he just caved to Harvey.

[00:13:42] If Harvey keeps pushing, I could see Mike caving more and more and more because Harvey called it out. Mike likes that stuff. He likes the back and forth and the seat and all the bluffing. That's his bag. He wants to do that and also help people.

[00:14:04] And those cases don't normally align. So he's like, he's got to do the other one just to get his rocks off. You get it out of the system. If I'm Harvey, though, I think I'm going down to security and I'm giving them a picture

[00:14:16] of Oliver and it's like, do not let this man into the building. If you see this man, escort him out. Do not let this man get near Mike Ross. This man could try to single handedly bring down Pierce Inspector lit at any point.

[00:14:32] Do not let him in the building. Anyone with a sense of morality in PSL is going to just destroy them from the inside out. And yeah, Oliver is going to poach Mike Ross if it's the last thing he can do.

[00:14:46] He's going to be like the conscious, the little good angel on Mike's shoulder the whole time being like, Mike, you swore, you promised you were supposed to be better. Yeah, I didn't think it was going to be like this, Mike. What happened?

[00:14:59] I'm telling you, he has the wide eyed innocence of a child. It's just really hard to say no to people like that. I have it too, Rob. I do. It's one of my skills. Yeah. All right.

[00:15:09] Let's talk about then we have this case that's going on here in this episode. Neil Stillman is a guy. You know, it's so weird how when Mike was going through it that everybody in the world knew about Mike Ross, the fraud.

[00:15:27] Here's Neil Stillman, who is presented to us as like one of Jessica's oldest clients. And Harvey shows up and he brings Mike. He's like, who's this guy? Like, what? He's like, why didn't you bring this kid around sooner?

[00:15:42] It's like, oh, you didn't you didn't know about the whole thing. You didn't hear? Neil Stillman is like, I don't care. I do not care. I don't care. And he's he's not a bully. I kind of like him. Yeah.

[00:15:54] And he's trying he's trying to sell his company and that we're trying to now get buyers. He has like a vodka business, but it's like one of these things where we're getting like very like vague. We don't know what else he's trying to do.

[00:16:09] It's like I think the writers were like, like, we're not even going to come up with anything like we're not going to tell you. Don't worry about it. He's trying to do something else. Just take our word for it.

[00:16:18] And so Harvey and Mike, for the first time ever say like, OK, here's what we need to do. We need to throw a party to bring in buyers for the vodka company, bring in models.

[00:16:31] This seems like maybe a note from the USA network of like, hey, we need to like bring the sexy back to suits. Yeah. Them other don't know how to act. You know, they bring it sexy back. I remember the days of USA when it was very sexy.

[00:16:48] Especially the suit commercials. It was a lot of slow motion walking. It very much looked like an Audi commercial or something. Right. It's like, oh yeah. All you see is like cars and like very expensive suits. And you see the models walk about.

[00:17:02] Harvey's kind of cutting his eyes at them in the distance. They give you vibes that this show is a lot sexier than it is. There's almost no sexiness in the show at all. Yeah. Like very little sexiness.

[00:17:12] Even like on Netflix, like the poster is like in episode one in the premiere, like Harvey goes home with the waitress and she's like in bed in his underwear. And I feel like that that's like on Netflix. I feel like often like the thumbnail.

[00:17:25] Maybe that maybe this is like Netflix is like, hey, we know how to get Rob. That's not why I started watching him. But like I do think that it is an angle that they try to spin this show as suits. Oh, look, it's there's a it's so sexy.

[00:17:43] No, that's your algorithm. My Netflix shows me Mike and Father Walker and Trevor all together. Yeah. So I'm sorry. Maybe. Yeah. Maybe that just that's just my type of content. Rob, it knows how to get to me. But for you. Yeah.

[00:17:59] They know they got to squeeze it up. Please. Enough. And so, yeah, we have this model party going on here with the vodka. And we end up with that. Harvey says that we're going to vet the buyers because the people that hit on the women, we're

[00:18:16] going to know they're not serious buyers and then the people that get too drunk on the vodka. So basically, we're going to eliminate people in two different rounds. I'm getting eliminated both times.

[00:18:26] And that's a crazy thing that it's crazy to know that I would not be in the running for this at any way in any way possible. Yeah. Because if I'm if I'm not hitting on somebody, I'm definitely drunk. And also those two things might overlap.

[00:18:38] The Venn diagram might be a circle. They get it down to then a couple of buyers. They bring them in. They're doing their old like Mike and Harvey tricks of putting the buyers in the same room. And then everything is looking good.

[00:18:52] Then we got another buyer on the hook for 200 million. Good, good, good. And then Mike gives a folder to Harvey's like, Harvey, don't you understand there's this other smoking gun and we can't go through with this? Yeah, we can't do it. I can't do it.

[00:19:08] We don't know why. We don't know what the no, we don't know. Like what? What was Neil Stillman trying to do? What did the like Mike smoking gun say? Because we find out that he has the same like vodka formula as another company later on in the episode.

[00:19:25] Right. Whatever. It is just all of these cases is just them saying we need to show that Harvey has lost his edge a little bit. Neil Stillman comes in and he says, I'm in charge. Jessica was what? I was her main client.

[00:19:39] I was one of the I was one of the OG's. She's gone. And I feel like y'all just we got to keep this big going. And so she's gone. All right. So they they have this this client who is like, I'm in charge.

[00:19:57] I y'all have not been showing me the love that I deserve. And I'm a fire. Y'all because y'all need money. Y'all need me more than I need y'all. What's everybody going to think? Right. I think that Harvey Specter can't cut the mustard. Yeah.

[00:20:12] You know, Jessica and Harvey's like, oh, my God, what if I'm no Jessica? And so the whole time he's avoiding doing the thing that classic Harvey would do, which is tell him to shut the hell up. We've seen Harvey talk so raw to these clients of his.

[00:20:24] I'm talking about people that pay him. He's like, oh, I'm going to tell you what you're going to do or you can get out the hell out of my office. I'm going to take this deal. And if not, I'm going to beat your ass. Basically.

[00:20:35] But Harvey's like Neil Stillman walk all over him. And so by the end of the episode, he's like, I do need to stand up for myself. I need to talk. Well, Mike has to have a tantrum first of like Mike is like moves all of Harvey's stuff out

[00:20:48] of his office and brings it all. Like I'm going to go through all of my pro bono boxes now because you can't do what needs to be done. He's like, Mike, I'm going to beat your ass. Basically.

[00:21:01] Well, Harvey walks in and this is the first time I'm noticing it. Harvey dropped the F bomb. Yes, yes. He dropped it. And but we like get like the F in you and then they drop out the C in the K.

[00:21:13] Netflix is bleeping the F word, but I heard it. I had to I had to rewind it because I was like, wait, what did he say? Yeah. But yeah, he's mad at Mike Ross because Mike Ross is like, I'm about to get to my pro bono

[00:21:26] cases because clearly you're not ready to step up into this Jessica role. You're not Harvey. I used to know you're not. And Jessica's role has been vacant. Harvey said that him and Lewis were going to co-manage, you know, PSL.

[00:21:40] But then by the beginning of this episode, he's walking around like, actually, I'm the new Jessica. I just I just haven't told Lewis it, you know? And so Mike's like, you haven't told Lewis. You haven't said anything to this man. I don't think you're ready.

[00:21:53] I don't think you you want it. I think you think you want it, but you're scared and you're being a little punk. I'm going to whoop your ass. You know, Mike Ross, I will kill you right now.

[00:22:04] He's like, OK, well, that's not going to change the fact that you're afraid to do this job. And so Harvey had to take a look in the mirror and say, yeah, I'm Harvey Spector, bitch. And so he's going to go and tell Neil Spillman what it is.

[00:22:18] Is that his name? Spillman? Yeah, I think it is. Neil Stillman. Stillman. Yeah. They had to go tell him what it was. Yeah, he goes to him and gives him, you know, the old Harvey line of, hey, you're not in charge. I'm in charge here.

[00:22:33] And here's what we're doing. Blah, blah, blah. Yeah. OK, so back at the office, you know, we saw at the end of season six, Donna had said that, hey, I want more. We didn't know what that meant.

[00:22:44] And so in this episode, we see that Donna is telling Harvey she wants to be a partner. Yeah, I want to be a partner. And Harvey says, you're not even a lawyer. She's like, OK, but, but, but, but. Correct. Also. And. Like, yes.

[00:23:04] She goes, but I've been your secretary for a very long time, for 10 years. And without me, you would have been nothing. So I deserve to be partner. He's like, that's not sounds logic. But I think Donna, she does a bad job of making her case.

[00:23:22] I think what she's getting at is that PSL would have been gone a long time ago if not for her. She's done a lot to keep this place afloat. She's also done a lot to bury them as well. Like Donna is not she's not always a net positive.

[00:23:33] Has she done a lot to keep them afloat? Like, I feel like that at this point. I don't know necessarily if Donna has done a ton to keep the the business afloat.

[00:23:45] But I do think that maybe now she's like, hey, that if I left that, you know, what would happen to this place? Oh, yeah. And Harvey even says it in 15 minutes, we're done. You know, like if this does not if Donna leaves, there is no way they survive.

[00:24:01] I think she she to this point did not have that kind of leverage because she was not that important. She was very important to Harvey. And at some point she was very important to Lewis. But Jessica would have fired Donna if necessary.

[00:24:12] She's like, all right, we can get you. I mean, look, we brought in Gretchen. The ball stayed rolling. Right. The trains were still on the train was still on the tracks. But without Jessica there to manage the boys. And I think that's really what it comes down to.

[00:24:25] You have a Lewis and Harvey who are so incendiary, you know, they don't talk to each other ever. They don't talk to each other. They do not communicate. They are not friends. As much as they want to lie and say that their family, they're just not.

[00:24:38] And a lot a large part of the reason they're ever able to get along throughout the series is because Jessica or Donna at any given point is walking into their office and going, you know, you need to go make up with Lewis. Fine.

[00:24:51] Go make things right with Harvey's in it. Every other episode, we should have kept a counter as a beginning of this season. Right. Next time. Yeah. Next time through of just how many times that they got into the they got in an argument

[00:25:05] and it took one of those women specifically, not Mike, not Rachel, but literally Jessica or Donna to go in and say, be normal. Stop acting like this. Y'all are weird. Is y'all are adults grow up.

[00:25:17] She knows that now that there's no Jessica, it is solely on Donna to keep the peace because Lewis is losing his mind right now. And if Harvey gets wind that the associates are now suing Lewis and all this other stuff

[00:25:29] because he's being a mega jerk, Harvey's not going to go to Lewis to say, Lewis, maybe take some time off. He's going to go to Lewis and say, Lewis, if you do this again, I'm going to punch you in your face, you know?

[00:25:39] And so she knows she's very important. She has the leverage. She needs to put a little skin in the game, but she can make a play for senior partner. Yeah. That was a good scene with Donna and Gretchen where that Donna tells Gretchen she wanted

[00:25:54] to be the senior partner and then Gretchen talks about like, well, then you go and like rip up your check of like check. Yeah. The check, the check, your buy in to be a partner. And Donna's like, oh, right. It's not free.

[00:26:11] I just don't get it because Harvey's friend. Yeah. I guess, I guess I didn't realize that because I make, I'm supposed to be making, you know, $60,000 a year and Harvey pays me. Really Harvey is just like getting his own money back. Like he's essentially. Yeah. Essentially.

[00:26:27] And Harvey is very hesitant to make Donna see a senior partner, but I think it's less about Donna and more about Harvey just being hesitant in general in this episode. He just was not moving the needle, you know, having a party for Ciroc.

[00:26:40] I mean, I would say Ciroc for vodka. It's just like just Harvey having a party. Like, oh yeah, it sounds like something fun. He can hang out with Mike. He really didn't want to let the old times go.

[00:26:50] But Donna comes in the very first scene, I think that when they're together and says, hey, I need you to make a decision and do not forget about me. Harvey's like, I won't forget about you. And then moments later she's like, so did you forget about me?

[00:27:03] He's like, no. So I just don't get an answer. I got five hundred thousand dollars. I'm too busy trying to date my therapist. Oh, and please. I would love to see when Donna figures this out.

[00:27:13] You know, her and the therapist had a moment where she was like, you know, Donna, I think you got what it takes to be a therapist. But you know what? You don't have what it takes to date Harvey because I'm a date. He's mine. All right.

[00:27:27] Let's talk about Lewis here in this episode, because Lewis is so out of control. This might be the most out of control that we've ever seen. Lewis Lewis had had a lot of growth, we thought, towards the end of season six.

[00:27:40] And Lewis was seeming like that he is like doing a great job at different points. He won some Liddy's down the stretch, but Tara broke up with him in the last episode.

[00:27:49] And now Lewis is like, OK, I need to throw myself back into my work with the associates. And there is one associate who needs time off to go and have a baby. And then Lewis gets so triggered to the point where, like, it was almost like unbelievable

[00:28:07] that this one conversation like Lewis started off the episode and he was kind of normal, but then got so triggered by this man needing two days off for the C-section. And he is just completely on tilt for the entire rest of the episode to the point where

[00:28:26] what was wild was that he's like this man is talking about how his wife needs a C-section and Lewis is like, what's he say? Like that's gross. I don't want to hear about that.

[00:28:40] And then he says to this other woman, Stephanie, about how, Hey, and just because nobody wants to try to have a baby with you doesn't mean we need to hear from him. I believe his words were you self-centered piece of shit.

[00:28:56] Do you think I care about the graphic details? And he's like, I just thought I thought what you thought? Give a shit about your job. Let me tell you something. When you work here, you work here. You don't think about home and families and babies.

[00:29:09] So the next time you want to put your personal life ahead of the needs of this firm, you had a goddamn come to me a year in advance. I like to have a baby. Stephanie, maybe you don't know how babies are made because when people are trying, they

[00:29:26] know they're trying just because no one wants to ever try to have a baby with you doesn't give you the right to tell me how to run my ass. Oh, my God. You got that? Stephanie? Louis, quickly, how many people have tried to have a baby with you?

[00:29:46] Yeah. Nobody yet. Nobody yet. Thanks, Louis. Thank you for your professional opinion. So Louis is out of control and Rachel and Donna are both trying to like clean up over this. And so there's like trying to talk to him. He doesn't want to hear it.

[00:30:07] He lashes out at Donna. Like you mentioned, he lashes out at Rachel. There is some thought of maybe Rachel should be running the associates. And ultimately, they're going to tell Louis about that. He flips out. You're trying to take the associates from me.

[00:30:23] I'm not going to let it happen. And that's when Harvey has to come in. Donna tries to pull rank because she's a senior partner now. That's how he finds out about this. He's not happy. But ultimately, Harvey tries to pull rank on Louis about this.

[00:30:40] And by the end of the episode, Louis does come around. Which is weird because Harvey comes in, takes Donna's side and says, Donna's a senior partner because I... Well, Donna says, I'm a senior partner. Louis is like, since when? Everyone at home is saying the same thing.

[00:30:55] And so Louis is like, you don't just get to be senior partner today and then tell me because Louis is still a name partner. So I don't think she outranks him. And so she comes in and like, you're done, Louis. He's like, I'm not done actually.

[00:31:07] And so when Harvey walks in, he's like, actually, Louis, she is a senior partner now. He's like, okay. And so Harvey says, we're going to take this to a vote. And so I was like, all right, cool.

[00:31:16] But first, we also have to vote for me to be managing partner. And so I'm thinking, Louis... Why relinquish this to Harvey if you know he's about to push for Donna to now, you know, be in charge of you.

[00:31:29] But I think Louis is really rapidly realizing in that moment that what Donna is saying is true. He is a head that's not in the game, right? He's just... He's being a jerk because of his personal life. And so he folds and that's Harvey managing partner.

[00:31:43] But they're going to put this, the Donna senior partner vote to, I mean, I guess Donna's senior partner move to a vote. But I'm trying to figure out who's voting. Who are the voting parties? Is it just Harvey, Donna and Louis?

[00:31:55] Well, does Donna get to vote on should Donna be a senior partner? No. So it's just Harvey and Louis. Yeah. So is it... Does Mike get to vote as a junior partner? Do junior partners get to vote? What are the logistics?

[00:32:10] Listen, one of you lawyers out there, associates, hook us up. Tell us what's really going on. So is Donna Mike's boss then after this? Yes. Donna's definitely Mike's boss. Yeah. So I'm assuming Donna... Yeah. But Donna's not... Look, someone has to vote Donna in.

[00:32:26] That's how I understand this. And so I'm not quite sure who all the voting parties are because we know that Louis and Harvey were the only two name partners and there are no senior partners except for potentially Donna.

[00:32:41] So I don't know if they're going to bring in like the entire squad, give Gretchen a vote, maybe Katrina, who might be a junior partner. I think she's the same as Mike. Is she a junior partner or a senior partner? She's a junior partner.

[00:32:54] I think that right now, I think it's that Louis and Harvey are the senior partners, that Mike and Katrina are junior partners. Rachel's just an associate. And then Donna is soon to be on par with Louis and Harvey. With all her years of junior partners.

[00:33:16] She's about to jump a lot of people. A whole lot of people. If I'm Rachel, I'm like, so why can't I be a senior partner? If I'm Rachel, I'm literally asking that question. Hey, dad, can I get 500k to be a managing partner at PSL?

[00:33:33] Hey, Mike, can I have 500k since you just give it to random ass clinics and stuff? Yeah, he could have bought a senior partnership for that money. Yeah, for Rachel. If I'm Rachel, I'm literally walking right in behind Donna and saying,

[00:33:45] so is it just open season on senior partners? Do I just buy in? If I'm Katrina, I'm thinking the same thing. Katrina has been lobbying to be a partner at any of these firms for a very long time. She left Robert Zane, brought 10 associates as well.

[00:33:58] We haven't seen her yet this season, but if Donna can make a play for senior partner, Katrina definitely has a claim to it. Yeah. All right. So ultimately, at the end of the episode, Louis, he's going to want closure. He's going to call up Tara.

[00:34:13] Couldn't we just make a clean break with Tara? It was fine. It was a voicemail. That's not a clean break. I do not. But couldn't it just happen in between seasons? We didn't need to see it. You're right. And then we get some office moving around.

[00:34:30] So we get where Harvey is going to move to Jessica's office. We didn't see what Harvey's new office looks like. We see Mike moving into Harvey's office. There's a funny moment with Donna talking about how Mike doesn't have the balls to fill Harvey's office.

[00:34:48] And then they start talking about, you know, the logistics of that size, the girth. You know? What kind of balls is Mike Ross into? Basketballs? Tennis balls? Why would he have balls displayed in his office? Bikes, exactly. He wants to put a bike rack in Harvey's office.

[00:35:06] Now whose office did Donna take? Donna's moving into an office, but I wasn't sure whose office that was. Jeff Malone. Oh, she moved into the Jeff Malone office? It's the only other office I know that exists. Yeah. I don't know.

[00:35:23] I think that maybe the Suits creators expected us to have a better, like, oh, that's this office, that's this office, that's this office. So maybe people who are tracking this better could tell us. Jeff Malone's office was directly next to Jessica's office.

[00:35:36] And so I feel like, because Jessica did that on purpose, because, you know, they were... Jappel, as far as we're concerned, like, I think there's a lot of empty offices in this building. Like every associate could have their own office at this point.

[00:35:49] At some point. But, you know, the bullpen is very important to us. So you got to have the bullpen. But yeah, I'm pretty sure the order of operation is that Harvey's in Jessica's office. Harvey's Jessica. Donna is Jeff Malone.

[00:36:04] Mike is Harvey. And then Rachel is Rachel and Louis. Once upon a time at PSL, you could, you would think hundreds of people work there. We know the entire roster of people that work there. There are, okay, there is, of course, at the top, Harvey, Louis,

[00:36:23] now managing partner Donna, Mike, Rachel. Okay, that's five. Okay. Gretchen works there. That's six. Katrina is a partner who's also there. And there are then 10 associates. There are 17 people that work in this building. Please call our associates by name. You have Stephanie, the man with the C-section baby,

[00:36:48] and then eight others. So yes, we actually know, if we give Stephanie and that other man a name, we actually could name most of the cast. Oh, and Benjamin. Benjamin, I don't know if he's officially an employee. Yeah, he's there. He's somewhere in this building.

[00:37:06] Damn it. Unless Benjamin sold to Donna and just took off. There is a world that the Donna, they made money off the Donna. Maybe Benjamin's out. Yeah. Okay. We know everybody. Is this, let's see, is this Brian? Was that the guy? Benjamin?

[00:37:26] No, Brian is the guy that was having the baby? Oh, I think so. Yeah. All right. So there you go. That's the entire cast of PSL. Experience the Mazda Leasing Weeks Japanese craftsmanship in perfection and now benefit from attractive offers and instant availability. For example, the Mazda CX-30

[00:37:49] starting at 189 euros per month. More at your Mazda partner and on Mazda.de Mazda. Chappelle, let's figure out who is getting a Liddy award in this episode. Got to be Brian, right? Congratulations. Okay. Mike is back. Donna, can we give it to Donna for becoming a managing partner?

[00:38:14] She ain't a managing partner yet. She got to win this vote first. We don't know where Gretchen's going to vote. Rachel's in charge of the associates now. Harvey's dating his therapist. Harvey loses. Harvey's out. Therapist is out. Is it Mike? Mike got yelled at by Oliver.

[00:38:33] I think Rachel kind of wins. Rachel? She gets the associates. Yeah, I don't know. Donna made a power play here. Donna did make the power play. She made the push. No way they're going to not vote Donna through. Come on. This is a foregone conclusion.

[00:38:53] I wouldn't vote Donna through. Donna, remember that time you were destroying evidence? Okay. Unless you have some blackmail on us. I'm sorry. You're not getting this role. I'm telling you, if I'm Katrina, I flip the table. If Katrina becomes a senior partner. Why wouldn't she?

[00:39:11] I don't think they've ever had a conversation before. Because they hate her. They hate Katrina so much. Do you think we'll ever see the Donna again? No, I hope not. Dear God. Maybe the Donna will be Donna's secretary. Yeah. Because now Donna needs one because she's a partner.

[00:39:31] Maybe. Who's going to do the secretary work now? Nobody. Who was doing it before? Nobody. Maybe Donna will hire her own sort of like executive. Yeah, who's Harvey's secretary? I guess is Donna still Harvey's secretary? So actually, so going back to like, yeah.

[00:39:49] So Jeff, if Jeff Malone had the office next to Jessica, so then if Harvey is in Jessica's office, then Donna having the office next to him would make sense that she could basically like come in and out when she needs to. Exactly. Exactly. Okay.

[00:40:05] So we didn't even know that. We didn't have a ton of references. Lewis mentioned Slumdog Millionaire that he was looking at like some mudding brochures. He was looking for his Frida Pinto. Mm hmm. Yeah. No, I believe it was Gretchen who went in there

[00:40:21] and was like, hey, you should look at these mudding brochures. I don't understand why you like them. It looks like you're bathing in excrement, but have at it. And it was like, no, no, no, I don't need that. I don't need a vacation. I don't need a vacation.

[00:40:37] He definitely needs a vacation. Lewis needs therapy. Yeah. I don't know if Lewis will ever find happiness until he becomes a whole human. We did see him talking to a therapist on the phone one time. He needs a real therapist. That is some type of like.

[00:40:54] Maybe could Dr. Agard do it? Mm hmm. Imagine Harvey and Lewis have the same therapist. Oh my God. And Harvey's sleeping with his therapist. There can't be his therapist anymore. Did you feel like that it was realistic? And again, that we are not mental health professionals.

[00:41:12] But like with Dr. Agard, see Harvey if he was not seeing like she's like, OK, well, like I would see you under the condition that you are in therapy right now. You still have issues that you're working through. Like it just feels like very hypocritical for Dr.

[00:41:30] Agard to I mean, did she feel like that? Harvey has like graduated, which is not a thing. But did she feel like that to the point where that like why would she date a man who she felt like that still was very much in need of being in

[00:41:44] therapy? He has a fancy car. He's got a lot of money. She knows all the bad things about him already. It kind of feels like a safe bet for her. She's like, I mean, yeah, he needs therapy, but I'm a therapist.

[00:42:00] So if this was The Sopranos, like in the next episode, we would see Dr. Agard with her therapist talking about what's going on. It's like, well, you know, I started seeing somebody. Do you remember I told you about my work with Harvey Specter? Like what?

[00:42:18] The distracted lawyer that was having the panic attacks? Yeah, well, I'm dating him now. Paula. Paula, are you dumb? Yeah, this is stupid. This is stupid. I don't think I'm not calling Paula stupid, but I think she's a bad at her job because this is just

[00:42:37] an insane thing to do. Harvey is obviously going to try to use you as a therapist. That's the whole reason why you don't even have a connection. The only reason he ever opened up to you is because you were prying at him as a mental health

[00:42:53] professional that could not share his secrets. This is not going to work, Paula. And if it does, I'm judging him and the writers of the show. I think there are a lot of different choices in her dating life. I feel like, I think I come down

[00:43:11] more as like that she is making very questionable decisions in her personal life. I think that her personal life and her job have just overlapped in a way that just cannot be parsed as well. I think in her personal life, she might be a normal human, but

[00:43:29] as far as the therapy part of it, it is hard to meet somebody in New York City. Is it? There's a billion people there. Honestly, I think it's possible not to meet people in New York City. Look, for attractive, well-to-do women that seemingly

[00:43:49] own property in New York City, it can be hard to meet people. In what way? This woman is rich. Yes, she's rich. I said it. She's rich in New York and she's attractive. I think she's fine. I think she will be OK. I think she can find someone

[00:44:14] that she is not professionally connected to to date. This is dumb. They also mentioned the Jedi Council where Mike is accused of trying to hang lightsabers on the wall by Harvey. I can't imagine that Mike and Harvey are keeping up with all these Star Wars

[00:44:34] prequels and all this stuff. Oh, I know Mike is. Mike is, maybe not Harvey. Mike has seen the Clone Wars. The animated series. Yeah. I don't have any current feedback here for this episode. This might have to do with us trying to get a little ahead

[00:44:56] with Thanksgiving coming up. But if you have any feedback about this episode, still send it in. If we don't cover it here today, we can still get into it from previous episodes. Looking back a little bit, My Dusty Books says about the Donna Chappelle. I'm with Rob on

[00:45:18] the Donna. It's a fun, silly storyline for Donna who hasn't been much of a secretary lately. She totally needs something to do. Season six, Rachel is probably my favorite version of Rachel's character, especially when she gets serious while Mike and Donna are being silly or quoting movies.

[00:45:44] Yeah, no, I'm a big Rachel fan at the end of the season for sure. I definitely was because prior to this, I mean, Rachel was the reason why we say stand up so much and I'm not seeing a lot of her crying about Mike

[00:46:02] Ross and his everyday moves. They actually seem kind of well adjusted as a couple. You know, he's like, I'm going to a model party with a bunch of models and vodka and she's on the line. OK, well, she would have told me, but it's fine.

[00:46:21] You know, like, you know, it's not it's not crazy. So even into season seven, Chappelle, also my dusty book said if the cast of suits were cast in a season of Survivor, which former castaway would they want to model their strategy after? So let me.

[00:46:41] OK, so let me just jump off of that question, which I think is tough to answer. OK, if the cast of suits were playing Survivor, who would win? I think in a vacuum, Donna wins. I think it's like, why would we let her get to the end?

[00:47:03] You know, we all love Donna. We all look at each other because the thing with suits is that they're all horrible people, right? So they're not going to let the good person, the good person, quote unquote, get to the end. So Donna's walking around telling everybody

[00:47:16] what they need and then about final five, they look at Donna and go, what? I don't know if we need to do it, but I think the idea of a suits brand steal is fine. What would be the theme? Is it heroes versus villains? I like Pierce Inspector

[00:47:30] lit versus the rogues gallery. So it's like basically like the heroes tribe is like everybody from it's like PSL versus the world. Is that what we maybe would want to do? I'd do it. I'd do it, but not on this podcast. I think suits yourself

[00:47:45] is a very specific thing that would have to be an option on something on PSR that we could do for later on. Maybe we do it after we're done. Yeah, but I'm just trying to think of what would be the right theme for the season.

[00:47:56] I like like PSL versus the world where basically you put everybody like all of the heroes on the one tribe and then it's like the other tribe is like Daniel Hardman, Travis Tanner, you know, Eric Roberts. Yeah. Where does Scotty fit in? Is Scotty on the villain tribe?

[00:48:16] I think we'd have to get her on the PSL tribe to like round things out. Katrina is there. Again, where does Katrina fit in? I think Katrina is there. Like I feel like even Robert Zane, I feel like would probably be like, I don't know.

[00:48:33] Maybe you could put him like we have to see how the cast is working out. Like I think we probably end up with more men than women, you know? No, not on this show. Hey, listen, Anita Gibbs is going to make an immunity run

[00:48:46] that will blow your mind. I think we could do really decent if we actually wanted to cast this. I mean, we're very far off the tracks here. But I think that I would enjoy the thought. I think it might be more fun to cast it

[00:49:03] than to actually play it out. Right, cast it and then just simulate the whole thing and just see who wins. Chappelle, anything else for you about the season seven premiere? Nope. I have no clue what we're about to do next. I'm really interested in this Donna storyline.

[00:49:19] We don't really talk a lot about Mike and Rachel getting married, but it's coming soon. And so I'm assuming that's going to be one of the highest points of the season. I'm waiting to see how it goes. All right, here we are. It's episode 93, just seven episodes

[00:49:35] away from episode 100. The big milestone for us as we enter triple digits of Suits from July 12, 2017. That's skin in the game. We'll be back to talk about season seven, episode two, Tomorrow, the Statue. So thank you so much for joining us. I'm at Rob Cisternino

[00:49:52] and we are also on a mission for 100 reviews by 100 episodes. And of course, we appreciate your feedback. Go to suitspodcast.com slash feedback. Take care, everybody. Have a good one. Bye.